Tippis Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: 99% of this market doesn’t think so So all software is worth using, then, since no market has that kind of saturation for a single product. Or were you just pulling random numbers out of your nether regions because you are wholly unfamiliar with the topic at hand, and have to be contrary just because? 51 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: Competition doesn’t benefit the consumer when it comes to formats like an OS or video discs etc. OSes are not formats, and the fact that there are multiple ones have massively and demonstrably benefited the consumer. Format convergence matters when you need to exchange information, especially in large quantities. That is not what OSes do, nor individual applications. If you can't keep those three apart, you've disqualified yourself from having any worth-while opinion on the matter. There is nothing confusing or inefficient about it, and as we can clearly see, there is no “winner” that has been picked by the consumer — odds are that you are using at least three different OSes, each with its own purpose and benefits, at this very second. Now, I'll grant that this does indeed seem to confuse you a fair amount, but has been explained on multiple occasions, you should not generalise from yourself. Even in the case of games, there is no clear winner — even setting aside console OSes, four are large enough that companies want to consider them on a regular basis, again for various purposes and use-cases. And yes, your irrational hatred towards it notwithstanding, Linux is indeed one of those. Again, chances are that you're already using it on a regular basis. Arguing against known reality will not help your case here. If you want to argue against the common and obvious use-cases already expressed, by all means do so, but don't use your ignorance of what an OS even is and of how markets operate be the only foundation for not wanting to see this kind of improvement to the game ecosystem. 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: guys really no point arguing over this. May I ask why not? While ED might not have any interest in doing this themselves, it's not like there aren't off-the-shelf solutions that would allow it to be packaged that way by a third party either as a partnership or as an unofficial scripted package solution. As long as there is interest in making the game run on other platforms, it is a worth-while discussion to have. Just because some parties get upset over the mere idea of it running on not-their-favourite-OS doesn't mean that the discussion is not worth having — only that they can't really contribute to that discussion. Edited October 10, 2021 by Tippis 1 ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
MustangSally Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Is it really worth it? Desktop Operating System Market share.........Windows - 75.4% versus Linux 2.33% Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
SharpeXB Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MustangSally said: Is it really worth it? Desktop Operating System Market share.........Windows - 75.4% versus Linux 2.33% In the PC gaming demographic it’s even lower https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam Edited October 11, 2021 by SharpeXB 1 i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
Tippis Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MustangSally said: Is it really worth it? Desktop Operating System Market share.........Windows - 75.4% versus Linux 2.33% Depends on the effort involved, and exactly what's covered, as always. Equally niche games have been given wrapper releases, and given the limits in how DCS processes thing, it might not even be as hampered by those solutions as is often the case — not sure if that's a good thing or not, though… And as mentioned earlier, that also assumes we're talking about the client. If we want a different segment, the picture becomes… quite different. But of course, that swings the discussion right back to the question of effort vs. usage — MP is itself a niche within a niche, and dedicated servers yet another layer of niche:ness on top of that. Even when you take the stripped-down headless dedicated server and no longer have to worry about the usual translation headaches of video and sound, it can easily end up being just too few users and too little benefit from the increased stability, reliability, and usability to be worth that lower cost. Edited October 10, 2021 by Tippis ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
MustangSally Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 Fun fact....It aint going to happen any time soon! Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
Tippis Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, MustangSally said: Fun fact....It aint going to happen any time soon! Even more fun fact: it is already happening. ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
MustangSally Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 I'll re-phrase it.....An official ED Linux port isn't going to happen! 1 Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
Tippis Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MustangSally said: I'll re-phrase it.....An official ED Linux port isn't going to happen! That's ok. They don't really matter in making that happen. Well… not much anyway. Edited October 10, 2021 by Tippis ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
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