peirof Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 Hi, I have a question, if an idea that I have in mind can be done, well I suppose it can be done, the question would rather be: - How can it be done? - What do I need (hardware / software)? The problem When you are flying in one of the DCS planes, you have to do a lot of pressing of the cockpit keys, to configure the plane, weapons, navigation ... and that with the keyboard is complicated there are dozens, if not hundreds of key combinations , and with the mouse it is very slow, especially in combat situations. Ideas I had been thinking about virtual reality glasses, but the problem of pressing the cockpit buttons makes me quite backward, it is still necessary to do it with keyboard and mouse. So right now, if it doesn't change, I seem to be opting for: - A TRACK IR device (or similar) - One or two small (touch) screens, I have seen them on Amazon 7 "/ 10", showing cockpit instruments. and I have several questions: 1st - Is this possible? A touch screen, connected to the graphics card, can display an aircraft instrument 2nd - Would that secondary screen be better to connect through the video output of the graphics card or through USB? 3rd - If that instrument has changes, for example a moving map, it would be rendered on the secondary screen. Not? 4th - What is shown on that screen. Does it always have to be the same? Or can I change it? (so you can display multiple instruments on one screen) 5th - Where can I see a guide / tutorial to do this? As I said, I DO NOT want to make a booth, the only thing I want is to be able to see part of the booth on that or those secondary screens. Does anyone use a similar combination that can advise me?
GPatricks Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, peirof said: 1st - Is this possible? A touch screen, connected to the graphics card, can display an aircraft instrument 2nd - Would that secondary screen be better to connect through the video output of the graphics card or through USB? 3rd - If that instrument has changes, for example a moving map, it would be rendered on the secondary screen. Not? 4th - What is shown on that screen. Does it always have to be the same? Or can I change it? (so you can display multiple instruments on one screen) 5th - Where can I see a guide / tutorial to do this? As I said, I DO NOT want to make a booth, the only thing I want is to be able to see part of the booth on that or those secondary screens. Does anyone use a similar combination that can advise me? 1st - Yes, but an 8" (Lilliput for example) does not connect to your graphics card, it connects via USB. 2nd - USB for small touchscreens, graphics card for monitors 3rd - You can place whatever you want to be rendered wherever you want (I use Helios), 4th - With Helios you can do multiple "layers" of screens and switch them at will 5th - I would start here.. I found the "touch" part of the Lilliput touchscreens unreliable so I went with Thrustmaster MFD bezels, MUCH better. You should also look into VoiceAttack to use voice commands while flying, perfect for radio comms but you can do anything with them.. MY current setup (that isn't DCS on screen, sorry for the mess.. .. Edited June 30, 2021 by GaryR 3 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
No1sonuk Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 Take a look about 1/3 of the way down this Flikr gallery page. It has some photos of what I'd describe as "advanced button boxes". https://www.flickr.com/photos/jfwall/page9 This page is from another user on these forums (I don't remember who). The other pages have a lot of in-depth photos of his A-10 instrument builds.
peirof Posted June 30, 2021 Author Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Seems very powerfull.... i think i have too much to read/study.... First, find a suitable screen... Something like this can be used? Suposse... SMALL TACTIL SCREEN Edited June 30, 2021 by peirof
No1sonuk Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 5:56 PM, peirof said: Something like this can be used? Suposse... SMALL TACTIL SCREEN Considering how small that screen is, the person in the photos must have very small hands! The android tablet idea would be OK if there was an android app available, or you could write one. The small screen idea is far easier to use, as the software already exists (Helios, etc.).
peirof Posted July 2, 2021 Author Posted July 2, 2021 What screen size its recommened for mfd's and Icp? I think that 7" was enough
pavidovich Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 Another option... Can use and Android tablet? There is an Android app that could be what you are looking forhttps://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3308547/Enviado desde mi SM-A105FN mediante Tapatalk 1
GPatricks Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, peirof said: What screen size its recommened for mfd's and Icp? I think that 7" was enough IMO 8" works better as it can hold the MFD bezels and leaves room for gauges, but depends on how you will use it.. Edited July 2, 2021 by GaryR 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
peirof Posted July 2, 2021 Author Posted July 2, 2021 Brand / Model? Almost all the ones I see are 7", from there go to 10 1
GPatricks Posted July 3, 2021 Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) Lilliput 869GL-80NP/C/T - 8" HDMI touchscreen monitor is what I have, but if using the TM MFDs I would not use touchscreen... Edited July 3, 2021 by GaryR 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
peirof Posted July 3, 2021 Author Posted July 3, 2021 Thx, at the end, i have ordered these.... 8" Touch Screen let's hope it helps me 1
GPatricks Posted July 3, 2021 Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, peirof said: Thx, at the end, i have ordered these.... 8" Touch Screen let's hope it helps me Well, as they seem to be HDMI I have no idea, you have two open HDMI ports? 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
peirof Posted July 3, 2021 Author Posted July 3, 2021 yes, in teory my graphic card can manage 2 monitors
Vinc_Vega Posted July 3, 2021 Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) Gary, do you use a TripleHead2go for the monitor setup? What's your frame rate for the sim? Regards, Vinc Edited July 3, 2021 by Vinc_Vega Regards, Vinc real life: Royal Bavarian Airforce online: VJS-GermanKnights.de [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GPatricks Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 14 hours ago, Vinc_Vega said: Gary, do you use a TripleHead2go for the monitor setup? What's your frame rate for the sim? Regards, Vinc No, for the 3 main monitors all are plugged into the 3090 via DisplayPort cables and combined with Nvidia Surround. The two 8" Liliputs are USB. I actually haven't looked a FR in DCS since installing the 3090, but I know in IL2 they range from 70 (HEAVY action) -140 with every graphics option on Ultra or Max.. 1 GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
peirof Posted July 4, 2021 Author Posted July 4, 2021 hace 5 horas, GaryR dijo: No, for the 3 main monitors all are plugged into the 3090 via DisplayPort cables and combined with Nvidia Surround. The two 8" Liliputs are USB. I actually haven't looked a FR in DCS since installing the 3090, but I know in IL2 they range from 70 (HEAVY action) -140 with every graphics option on Ultra or Max.. Hi, can you point me where this is explained... think this can help me. The secon monitor arrives me, and i have conected to PC, they have 3 connectors, that think it must be plugged (1 hdmi (For video signal), 1 Usb (For tactile and power) and 1 Usb (For power)) i think how its a little big, the needs more power (2xusb). I have managed to connect, and with mosaic put 2 test dials in this screen. But....i no have clear what i have to do...
GPatricks Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 17 hours ago, peirof said: Hi, can you point me where this is explained... think this can help me. The secon monitor arrives me, and i have conected to PC, they have 3 connectors, that think it must be plugged (1 hdmi (For video signal), 1 Usb (For tactile and power) and 1 Usb (For power)) i think how its a little big, the needs more power (2xusb). I have managed to connect, and with mosaic put 2 test dials in this screen. But....i no have clear what i have to do... Peirof - where what is explained? Our setups are quite different.. Your monitor has 1 HDMI and 2 USB plugs and all three are required? Since Windows sees your monitor (you should be able to place\drag it's location in relation to your main monitor in "Display Settings") then Helios will see it also. There is no good Helios manual, I suggest you go here to download it and learn what you can. GIGABYTE X870E AORUS Elite WIFI7, Thermaltake 1200w PS \AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - Corsair iCue Titan Liquid CPU cooler \ 64GB G.Skill Z5 DDR5 \ SBlasterX G6 \ 4TB NvMe M.2 Boot Drive \ Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB - Nvidia 576.52 drivers \ 3 Samsung LC32G53TQWUXEN 32" 7680x1440 at 144Hz Gsync \ Win11 Pro Ver. 24H2 - Build 26100.3915 \ TIR 5 \ Warthog HOTAS with VirPil stick base \ MFG V3 Pedals \ TM MFDs on 2 8" Lilliputs \ Simgears ICP \ Varjo XR-3 VR
AnarchyZG Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I use combination of 2 apps: MATRIC running on Android tablet as button box (https://matricapp.com) DCS OSB running as overlay on windows over exported MFDs on a 14'' touch screen (https://github.com/tgudelj/osb-overlay) P.S. I'm the author of both apps so I guess I roll my own 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MATRIC developer Check out MATRIC and forget about keyboard shortcuts
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