"Feeling Sub-dued" No migs spawn after first sub

[CH4Pz]

everytime i do the feeling subdued mission, i sink the first sub, then matrix takes the second, i follow the heading of the migs (even into the range of the sams, 355 for memory) and i get nothing on rwr/ew, or with 4bar 80nm radar sweep, or even sa page with datalink on, sometimes if i head back west to wp2, i get a brief ping on ew of 2 29's but even on AB they vanish, and i get nothing on the scopes at any point (i suspect its the migs from the start of the mission). i obviously cant search in amongst the sams, an after hitting bingo searching around in circles, i rtb, an obv dont pass the mission.

[Badger633]

2 hours ago, CH4Pz said:

everytime i do the feeling subdued mission, i sink the first sub, then matrix takes the second, i follow the heading of the migs (even into the range of the sams, 355 for memory) and i get nothing on rwr/ew, or with 4bar 80nm radar sweep, or even sa page with datalink on, sometimes if i head back west to wp2, i get a brief ping on ew of 2 29's but even on AB they vanish, and i get nothing on the scopes at any point (i suspect its the migs from the start of the mission). i obviously cant search in amongst the sams, an after hitting bingo searching around in circles, i rtb, an obv dont pass the mission.

Hi, 

 

SPOILER ALERT

 

So assume when the sub went down you got the message that the sub was splashed then coords for a second sub then a message a mig was approaching and that you would deal with the mig?

I have noticed also it has become more difficult to pick things up with the F18 radar  recently. Thus WAGs recent video on the subject covering various aspects that prevent you from  picking up aircraft. Check it out if you haven’t in case one of the aspects is the reason you are not picking the MIG up.

I will check it out in open beta, are you using this?

The mig should be attacking you so he should find you.

I will try it to see if a DCS AI update has changed things 

Badger633

 

EDIT

 

Just checked it. Seemed to work fine MIg did appear all as planned. You will also see his direction on your RWR. To pick the Mig up even if you are at 10K , he is much higher, use 80 range 6 bars and most important set PRF to Hi so it picks up high aspect fast approaching aircraft. 

As I said explained in WAGGS  video . See link below.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Edited August 17, 2021 by Badger633

[CH4Pz]

ok, no worries, will watch the vid and give it another shot, an let you know !

[CH4Pz]

Just confirming with 6bar, 80nm and Hi setting i was able to spot him, must a been too low for a 4bar before

[Badger633]

6 hours ago, CH4Pz said:

Just confirming with 6bar, 80nm and Hi setting i was able to spot him, must a been too low for a 4bar before

The 6 bar helps given their height but the Hi PRF setting is essential these days.

 

Glad you got it sorted 

 

Badger633  

[dburne]

Running into the same here, first attempt at this mission flew till I was out of fuel and no sign of the Mig.

Me and the  Hornet radar don't exactly see eye to eye.

[Badger633]

34 minutes ago, dburne said:

Running into the same here, first attempt at this mission flew till I was out of fuel and no sign of the Mig.

Me and the  Hornet radar don't exactly see eye to eye.

Just checked again.

 

Yes there is an issue which has come about by the AI changes to the Hornet. The problem is that the AI MIG is now refusing to enter the detection zone of the fleet even though it is out of range. ( Even though he is scripted to ignore threat). So if you do not intercept him he will turn and go home being the coward he is. I will work on a fix now for next update.

 

If you use the radar as set out in the topic above and climb to 20 K you should see the MIG. You will also see him on your RWR as well. If you intercept him all will be well.

 

In the meantime either locate him on the radar and intercept as above or just fly  and maintain  330 degrees and he will find you!

 

Hope this helps

 

Badger633     

[dburne]

19 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

Just checked again.

 

Yes there is an issue which has come about by the AI changes to the Hornet. The problem is that the AI MIG is now refusing to enter the detection zone of the fleet even though it is out of range. ( Even though he is scripted to ignore threat). So if you do not intercept him he will turn and go home being the coward he is. I will work on a fix now for next update.

 

If you use the radar as set out in the topic above and climb to 20 K you should see the MIG. You will also see him on your RWR as well. If you intercept him all will be well.

 

In the meantime either locate him on the radar and intercept as above or just fly  and maintain  330 degrees and he will find you!

 

Hope this helps

 

Badger633     

 

I don't think he will Badger, I kept flying at the heading and checking exterior view of other aircraft and saw an enemy Mig landing at an airport.

Never did get him on radar.

Just came from my second attempt with the same result.

 

I will try a third here shortly. Thanks for checking on this!

[Badger633]

41 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

I don't think he will Badger, I kept flying at the heading and checking exterior view of other aircraft and saw an enemy Mig landing at an airport.

Never did get him on radar.

Just came from my second attempt with the same result.

 

I will try a third here shortly. Thanks for checking on this!

If you can get to him before he hits the fleet detection ring it will work ok. If not then he’s off.

No problem though will get it sorted for next update.
Been a lot of changes with the AI which has hit a lot of campaigns.

 

Badger633

[dburne]

45 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

If you can get to him before he hits the fleet detection ring it will work ok. If not then he’s off.

No problem though will get it sorted for next update.
Been a lot of changes with the AI which has hit a lot of campaigns.

 

Badger633

 

Third time was the charm. 

I cheated a little and started heading toward bearing 330 before I got the instruction to do so. Not too soon before but apparently just enough.

No problem getting him on radar this time.

 

I am so loving this campaign! Can't believe only one more mission to go. Like your other two I am sure I will be flying this one again another time or two.

 

Edit: I think after I finish this one, I am going to have to start all over with Serpents Head and fly all three campaigns back to back - the trilogy!

Edited August 18, 2021 by dburne

[Badger633]

41 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Third time was the charm. 

I cheated a little and started heading toward bearing 330 before I got the instruction to do so. Not too soon before but apparently just enough.

No problem getting him on radar this time.

 

I am so loving this campaign! Can't believe only one more mission to go. Like your other two I am sure I will be flying this one again another time or two.

 

Edit: I think after I finish this one, I am going to have to start all over with Serpents Head and fly all three campaigns back to back - the trilogy!

 

Hi

 

Glad your enjoying them, that's the whole point at the end of the day. 

 

Just so you know have fixed this mission so the MIG won't run away if he gets close to the fleet designation zone. Will be out in next update together with many other little adjustments.

 

Will be working on this campaign with an alternative version, free issue if you have the campaign,  where the difficulty dial is turned up a bit 

 

Badger633

 

 

[dburne]

36 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

Hi

 

Glad your enjoying them, that's the whole point at the end of the day. 

 

Just so you know have fixed this mission so the MIG won't run away if he gets close to the fleet designation zone. Will be out in next update together with many other little adjustments.

 

Will be working on this campaign with an alternative version, free issue if you have the campaign,  where the difficulty dial is turned up a bit 

 

Badger633

 

 

 

Sounds great I will be looking forward to it!

 

 

[CH4Pz]

14 hours ago, Badger633 said:

Hi

 

Glad your enjoying them, that's the whole point at the end of the day. 

 

Just so you know have fixed this mission so the MIG won't run away if he gets close to the fleet designation zone. Will be out in next update together with many other little adjustments.

 

Will be working on this campaign with an alternative version, free issue if you have the campaign,  where the difficulty dial is turned up a bit 

 

Badger633

 

 

Would definitely love a version with less hand holding, for example , i noticed in the mission after this (an some others) theyre using code words to carry out strikes, but then main character basically explains everything theyre about to do over the radio to his wingman (who was in the same briefing room i assume), completely destroying mission integrity, but also lets the player "cruise" a little more. Totally agree though, these missions are gold standard, really nicely balanced, and as a developer, theyre getting more varied as you go along !! I just wish there was more like this out there.. any plans for a F16 campaign?

[MarcT-NL]

Hi. Yeah, I too couldn't find the Mig in this mission. Right after the heads up, I turned full burner into their heading and put the radar on 6bar, full azimuth, full range. Never found the Mig. I got a nails from it, but no radar-echo.

So getting low on fuel I decided to land at Khasab. There I found the Mig parked on the apron ! So I shot it and got the "splash-message". However, not enough fuel to reach the Abe, and at Khasab they wouldn't give me any. So I think you made Khasab a red base accidentally ?

I'll try the mission again tomorrow, more economically.

 

But after all, this campaign is great. Finally some missions where I understand what is expected of me. I tried Raven One too, but after 2 missions flying around clueless, I just left that one alone. This is the best campaign I did so far. I'll be trying your other campaigns too after this !

[Badger633]

4 minutes ago, MarcT-NL said:

Hi. Yeah, I too couldn't find the Mig in this mission. Right after the heads up, I turned full burner into their heading and put the radar on 6bar, full azimuth, full range. Never found the Mig. I got a nails from it, but no radar-echo.

So getting low on fuel I decided to land at Khasab. There I found the Mig parked on the apron ! So I shot it and got the "splash-message". However, not enough fuel to reach the Abe, and at Khasab they wouldn't give me any. So I think you made Khasab a red base accidentally ?

I'll try the mission again tomorrow, more economically.

 

But after all, this campaign is great. Finally some missions where I understand what is expected of me. I tried Raven One too, but after 2 missions flying around clueless, I just left that one alone. This is the best campaign I did so far. I'll be trying your other campaigns too after this !

Hi

 

If you see my comments above there is an issue , probably from DCS AI changes. I have fixed it and it will be in next update. In the meantime you can try using my suggestions above.

 

Thanks for your kind words

 

Badger633