L-159

[evanf117]

i think the Alca would be a fine addition to dcs and would serve as a L-39-2 and would bring more interest into light attack aircraft
the L-159 has Mav's, LGB's (GBU-12 and 16), unguided rockets, iron bombs, a 20mm gunpod and AIM-9 AAM's, it also has a small radar in the nose, a RWR,  and if im not mistaken a targeting pod, its AAR capable as well if ordered with the probe. when Areo designed it they did it using 3D models so in theory it would create less of a work load on ED adlest in the 3D department
 

 
to sum it up its every thing a modern fighter is minus going supersonic and having FOX-1/3's and its 2 seat so it would be a great way to introduce some one into dcs

[ataribaby]

Great idea! I would prefer actual combat capable single seat version. Alca is single seat - there is electronics on back seat. Two seaters are just trainers.

Edited October 23, 2021 by ataribaby

[evanf117]

6 minutes ago, ataribaby said:

Great idea! I would prefer actual combat capable single seat version. Alca is single seat - there is electronics on back seat. Two seaters are just trainers.

doesn't the 2 seater have the same weapons capability's tho?, doesnt the single seat just mean you have more fuel or am i wrong

Edited October 23, 2021 by evanf117

[ataribaby]

I think only single seater A variant is fully mission combat capable as far I remember two seater B variant is meant just for training. Single seater uses back seat room for additional avionics needed. I remember just few two-seater was ordered and mainly held in storage. We are talking about real flying and produced variants. There was planned/proposed versions that can probably be closer what you described but never left drawing board.

In short. A single seater is real combat capable version produced. B double seater materialized just as training only prototype. Probably if there was customer, Areo will probably tailor double seater configuration for customer needs.

From wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_L-159_Alca

L-159A

The L-159A ALCA is a single-seat light multi-role combat aircraft designed for a variety of air-to-air, air-to-ground and reconnaissance missions. The aircraft is equipped with a multi-mode Doppler Grifo-L radar (a variant of the Grifo-F x-band multi-mode, pulse-doppler radar),^[35] for all-weather, day and night operations. It can carry a wide range of NATO standard stores including air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles and laser guided bombs. The L-159A is in operational service with the Czech and Iraqi air forces. There are two different configurations being used by the Czech Air Force – using the Honeywell 4x4 inch MFDs or the Vdot 5x6.7 inch MFDs. Avionic upgrades are designed and developed by V-Dot Systems Inc.

 

 

L-159B

The L-159B, also known as L-159B Albatros II,^[39] is a two-seat version primarily designed for Advanced and Operational/Lead-In Fighter Training. The L-159B configuration can also be tailored to customer specific requirements and adapted to needs of basic training as well as combat missions including air-to-ground, patrol and reconnaissance missions. On 23 July 2002, the Czech military signed a letter of intent on acquisition of the first two L-159B aircraft. However, due to the budget constraints the trade did not materialize. The only prototype has been rebuilt by Aero Vodochody into L-159T2X demonstrator. The aircraft's designation was changed on 14 December 2015.^[40][41]

Edited October 24, 2021 by ataribaby

[evanf117]

7 hours ago, ataribaby said:

I think only single seater A variant is fully mission combat capable as far I remember two seater B variant is meant just for training. Single seater uses back seat room for additional avionics needed. I remember just few two-seater was ordered and mainly held in storage. We are talking about real flying and produced variants. There was planned/proposed versions that can probably be closer what you described but never left drawing board.

In short. A single seater is real combat capable version produced. B double seater materialized just as training only prototype. Probably if there was customer, Areo will probably tailor double seater configuration for customer needs.

 

interesting, in that case, like how we have the C and ZA i think it would be cool to get both starting with the single seat first, also i haven't seen any photos of real ALCA's with AAR probes i assume its an optional feature and no one has ordered yet

[evanf117]

also another interesting option is the L-39 NG 

 

[ataribaby]

Yeah, it is latest trainer in works. I think about to be certified.

TBH I will stick to you idea bring combat ready L-159 Alca to DCS. That will be awesome for maps like Syria.

BTW what you proposed existed. L-59 two seater, Egypt has them.

Aero L-59 Super Albatros - Wikipedia

Edited October 25, 2021 by ataribaby

[upyr1]

I've suggested this as well

[ROBYMIG]

On 10/23/2021 at 11:37 PM, evanf117 said:

i think the Alca would be a fine addition to dcs and would serve as a L-39-2 and would bring more interest into light attack aircraft
the L-159 has Mav's, LGB's (GBU-12 and 16), unguided rockets, iron bombs, a 20mm gunpod and AIM-9 AAM's, it also has a small radar in the nose, a RWR,  and if im not mistaken a targeting pod, its AAR capable as well if ordered with the probe. when Areo designed it they did it using 3D models so in theory it would create less of a work load on ED adlest in the 3D department
 

 
to sum it up its every thing a modern fighter is minus going supersonic and having FOX-1/3's and its 2 seat so it would be a great way to introduce some one into dcs

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