With my new Reverb G2 from Intel to AMD

[TT1977]

Dear pilots.

I am a DCS Rookie from Germany and I am pleased to be writing my first lines in this beautifull forum. Even if my words adress a well

known problem. This problem is certainly not limited to DCS, but DCS in VR was an integral part of my decision to

upgrade my PC from an Intel to an AMD powered one (besides gaming i do creative work like music production, 3d modeling

and cad also).

 

The cpu of my old Intel system was an I7 7820K on an Asus Prime X299 Deluxe motherboard together with an Asus Rog RTX 3090 OC.

I was totally overwhelmed by the image quality of my new Reverb G2 which in fact is my first VR Headset ever. It was always razor-sharp and the

colors vivid. Unfortunately, by the time I was putting the new system together, I didn't know anything about the problems of

the G2 and AMD systems.

 

And ... well, here I am

 

After many unsuccessful attempts to put the Reverb G2 into operation, I have now found a USB port which is capable of

operating the G2. But compared to the image quality i got with the Intel system, it is visibly worse with the AMD system.

I get jagged edges and shimmering (imagine some small raindrops on a window), kind of washed-out or blurry textures as well

as text, the screen door effect is noticeable, albeit softly. In general I get simply everything that wasn't there before,

although I am using the settings from the Intel system. Remember that i do compare the image quality, only. Of course with everything up to date

so far. Not FPS is what matters at the moment.

 

My actual Specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9500X

Mobo: Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Wifi

GPU: Asus Rog RTX 3090 OC

RAM: 32 GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 3600

 WMR ist set for perfect visuals at 90Hz. SteamVR global SS is set to 150% and SteamVR per app SS is set to 60%  for DCS.

DCS PD is set to 1.5, i am using MSAA x4 and I am using the medium quality settings also. Despite all of this the 3D World in DCS (outside the cockpit in sepcial) is a war of pixels, not of planes. I guess not my overall Hardware is what is to blame.

 

As a last option - and due to the fact i ordered the G2 two month ago - today I ordered the modified cable through HP customer service, as I have read about the bad signal of the old cable in relation to AMD systems. So I think a bad signal due to the old cable is causing my problems and i just wanna know your thoughts about that. 

Do you think the new cable will bring back my old visuals again?

Thanks in Advance and stay healthy, Guys.

Greetings from Germany,

Timo

Edited October 26, 2021 by TT1977

[speed-of-heat]

sorry it is almost entirely unclear what you are asking?

[TT1977]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb speed-of-heat:

sorry it is almost entirely unclear what you are asking?

Sorry if my english is off, dude. 

Is it possible that the old cable of the G2 is causing my proplems? I mean the bad signal Quality due to my AMD based System? 

I never had this bad Image with my Intel rig. There it was crisp and clear. 

I hope it helps. 

[speed-of-heat]

looking at your settings PD to 1.0 , Steam VR sampling to 100%, CRM for DCS to 80%, MSAA to x2 

And yes if you are on a AMD chip you should defiantly get the new cable

 

[TT1977]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb speed-of-heat:

looking at your settings PD to 1.0 , Steam VR sampling to 100%, CRM for DCS to 80%, MSAA to x2 

Thanks. I will give it a try. So u think my software settings are to blame?

[speed-of-heat]

honestly i cant say, but you are changing so many things in so many places i would have to do maths to work out exactly what your image resolution is .. .but PD1.5  is going to KILL you combining that with 4x MSAA will kill you all over again even with a 3090

Edited October 26, 2021 by speed-of-heat

[TT1977]

vor 11 Stunden schrieb speed-of-heat:

honestly i cant say, but you are changing so many things in so many places i would have to do maths to work out exactly what your image resolution is .. .but PD1.5  is going to KILL you combining that with 4x MSAA will kill you all over again even with a 3090

 

Of course you are right. And for shure I was not planning to use these settings for regular playing. I was just wondering about why i can't get the image clarity of the G2 connected to my intel chip. There the G2s visuals were crisp and clear out of the box on a lower resolution. 

So for me and my limited knowledge of vr it was an amd related issue after reading about the connectivity issues with the old cable. 

Sorry dude if my writing is somewhat complicated. I really try my best to get in touch with all of you and your experience  

Thanks for helping me out. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by TT1977

[TT1977]

Nothing really changed for any good. But obviously i'm not the only one with this problem. 

To get a better explanation of what matters me, go to

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/190757-1080ti-s-odyssey-shimmeringjagged-mess/page/1/

I hope he does a better job than me in explaining . 

To sum it up again:

What I can see through the lenses of my g2 is verry aliased. The more distant objects are, the more messy they are. Everything is more aliased than it was before switching with my g2 to my new rig.

It seems like this oddity is restricted to vr only, cos i get a brilliant smooth picture on my 4k flat screen monitor with everything maxed in DCS. So my rtx 3090 is doing well i think. 

Today I rented another g2 to check for any hardware issues with my owned one. I want to eliminate everything as far as i can to find out what is wrong for me. 

I will keep you updated.

Cheers... 

Edited October 28, 2021 by TT1977

[Buzzer1977]

- Make sure your BIOS provides at least AGESA 1.2.0.2. 

- Update G2 firmware to 15 Rev.A.

- install latest AMD chipset drivers

- make sure you've got the new version of the G2 cable ( Part No. M52188-001)

[edmuss]

Could it be a function of sampling the resolution up to 150% and then down to 60% and then back up again with PD1.5 in DCS?

Have you tried it at 100%, 100% and PD1? Also you should be able to pull much higher details if you can push that many pixels and supersampling.

At native 100% resolution on the G2 there is minimal aliasing in my experience (my 1070 doesn't have the GPU horsepower to push it though). Could the aliasing be because you're trying to display 1.5 pixels per physical screen pixel?