Hardcard Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Bug: AWACS "Declare" option missing Can I reproduce it 100%: yes How to reproduce/ description: -Step1: Get an STT lock -Step2: Access AWACS comms menu -Result: "Declare" option is missing (no AWACS IFF available, so we have to rely on Jester for IFF... ) DCS Version: OpenBeta 2.7.8.16140 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 @IronMike Sorry for pinging you, but need to make sure HB is aware of this issue (I wouldn't know, since this thread hasn't been labeled yet). We can ask AWACS to declare our STT locks when we're flying hornet, viper, FC3 fighters, etc., but tomcat doesn't have this option available. I think this is a tomcat specific issue, which is why I reported the bug here instead of the general DCS bug section. It's kind of a big deal, since Jester doesn't always give IFF calls (and sometimes he messes them up). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 But with AWACS comes DL so you already should have this info on TID. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 @draconus Sometimes there's no other option but to ask AWACS for a declaration... even that doesn't always work, but at least I can try to IFF that way, which beats being at Jester's mercy. One example: there's a furball ahead, TID won't help me make sense of things and I can't be looking down at the TID anyway. Jester won't always give me the IFF call when I get an STT lock and visual identification with TCS isn't always an option, so I need to have a plan C for IFF (which is available when I fly hornet and viper, like I said). Preemptively, I'll clarify that I don't intend to shoot missiles into the furball (not without the verbal consent of the buddy via SRS, anyway), I just need to lock the bandit as soon as possible, hopefully force a mistake, be ready to shoot in case my buddy dies or run in with guns. Also preemptively, I'll say that TCS doesn't always give me a clear image (smoke, clouds, etc.), or the target might simply be outside of the camera's FOV. Another example: unknown contact popup close, I need my IFF declaration, I need it soon and I need it to be correct. Again TID won't help me here, I have to get my STT lock and IFF call asap. Like I said, Jester won't always declare it (or he might declare it too late / incorrectly), TCS isn't always an option, so I need my plan C for IFF, pretty please. Another example: unknown contact that remains unknown, no matter what. Jester won't IFF it, TCS might not be an option, I need my plan C (even if it doesn't work either, at least I can try my luck) Finally, like I said in the previous post, I can ask AWACS for IFF declaration when I fly the other full fidelity fighters I own, tomcat shouldn't be any less. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Hardcard said: Another example: unknown contact that remains unknown, no matter what. Ok, I thought DL contact is always declared. I see no reason to not have the option for the Tomcat. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hm, not sure why there isn't. We'll investigate that, thank you! 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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