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Opening up Controls in DCS open beta latest shows this:

dcs.jpg

Opening up box labeled "collective " allows the analog thumbstick to be assigned to it(either motion of the thumbbstick - vertical or horizontal) but NOT the WinWing throttle motion. The Winwing joystick base has no problem getting assigned to cyclic pitch and roll.

 

Also, Opening up box labeled "throttle" allows the analog thumbstick to be assigned to it(either motion of the thumbbstick - vertical or horizontal) but NOT the WinWing throttle motion.

 

For some reason, the Winwing throttle motion is not recognized in the Huey. It IS recognized just fine in the A10C and the F18.

Inside 

C:\Users\Stefan\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\FA-18C_hornet\joystick

as well as inside

C:\Users\Stefan\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\A-10C II\joystick

is a file named

WINWING THROTTLE BASE1 + F18 HANDLE {E33C7250-60FB-11ec-8002-444553540000}.diff.lua

I copied that file to 

Inside C:\Users\me\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\UH-1H\joystick and restarted DCS.

The Winwing throttle is still ignored and cannot be assigned to the collective. The 'Flight Control Collective cell' has 'JOY_Z' in it but nothing happens when the WinWing throttle is moved both ways. Deleting 'JOY_Z' and opening the cell also does not allow WinWing throttle motion to be assigned 

Other buttons on the throttle can be assigned just fine. For example the 'pinky switch' forward and back can be assigned tozoom in and out. The top 4 way push can be assigned to different views.The buttons just next to the ministick can even be made into modifier buttons and they all work.

Inside C:\Users\me\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\UH-1H\joystick are these files:

dcs2.jpg

I succesfully used my old TWCS throttle in the past as a collective for the HUEY and have two different working configs. I opened up 

TWCS Throttle {0C6ADB20-45EC-11eb-8002-444553540000}.diff.lua and is this:

 

local diff = {
	["axisDiffs"] = {
		["a2001cdnil"] = {
			["name"] = "Flight Control Cyclic Pitch",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_Y",
				},
			},
		},
		["a2002cdnil"] = {
			["name"] = "Flight Control Cyclic Roll",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_X",
				},
			},
		},
		["a2003cdnil"] = {
			["name"] = "Flight Control Rudder",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_RZ",
				},
			},
		},
		["a2012cdnil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_SLIDER1",
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Zoom View",
		},
		["a2087cdnil"] = {
			["changed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["filter"] = {
						["curvature"] = {
							[1] = -0.06,
						},
						["deadzone"] = 0,
						["invert"] = false,
						["saturationX"] = 1,
						["saturationY"] = 0.98,
						["slider"] = true,
					},
					["key"] = "JOY_Z",
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Flight Control Collective",
		},
	},
	["keyDiffs"] = {
		["d10pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN9",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN2",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F7 Ground unit view",
		},
		["d135pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN10",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F6 Weapon to target view",
		},
		["d13pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN2",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F9 Ship view",
		},
		["d151pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN10",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN2",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F8 Target view",
		},
		["d15pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F10 Theater map view",
		},
		["d179pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN11",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Communication menu",
		},
		["d3004pnilu3004cd41vd1vpnilvu0"] = {
			["name"] = "Pilot Trimmer",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN3",
				},
			},
		},
		["d3007pnilunilcd49vd1vpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_R",
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Pilot Sight Switch",
		},
		["d3009pnilu3009cd21vd1vpnilvu0"] = {
			["name"] = "Pilot's radio trigger RADIO",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN1",
				},
			},
		},
		["d326pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN8",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F1 HUD only view switch",
		},
		["d341pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN9",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F5 Ground hostile view",
		},
		["d359pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_L",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F4 Look back view",
		},
		["d7pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_R",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F1 Cockpit view",
		},
		["d84pnilu84cdnilvd1vpnilvu0"] = {
			["name"] = "Pilot weapon release/Machinegun fire",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN2",
				},
			},
		},
		["d8pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_D",
					["reformers"] = {
						[1] = "JOY_BTN3",
					},
				},
			},
			["name"] = "F2 Aircraft view",
		},
		["dnilp210u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Up Right slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_UR",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp211u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Down Right slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_DR",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp212u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Down Left slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_DL",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp213u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Up Left slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_UL",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp3002unilcd49vdnilvp-0.5vunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_D",
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Pilot Sight Intensity Decrease",
		},
		["dnilp3002unilcd49vdnilvp0.5vunil"] = {
			["added"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
				},
			},
			["name"] = "Pilot Sight Intensity Increase",
		},
		["dnilp32u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Left slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_L",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp33u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Right slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_R",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp34u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Up slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp35u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "View Down slow",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_D",
				},
			},
		},
		["dnilp36unilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
			["name"] = "Center View",
			["removed"] = {
				[1] = {
					["key"] = "JOY_BTN5",
				},
			},
		},
	},
}
return diff

I duplicated that file and renamed it to 

WINWING THROTTLE BASE1 + F18 HANDLE {E33C7250-60FB-11ec-8002-444553540000}.diff.lua

 

I still cannot assign the WinWing throttle to the collective function. However I can assign ANY other axis of ANY other controller to be the collective. What do I have to do to get my Winwing throttle to behave for a collective in the HUEY?

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Posted

Reverse your axis.

 

 

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Posted

You misunderstand. DCS does NOT recognize it AT ALL. If it was an axis reversal problem, I should see some movement reflected in DCS.

4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal

Posted
On 12/21/2021 at 3:45 PM, skypickle said:

sOLVED: need to move the throttle past afterburner detent for ENTIRE excursion.

Isn't this the way it is?  100% axis is always beyond afterburner detent, and 0% axis is at IDLE.

PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti.

Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L

Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2

Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon)

VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/

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