The USS Forestall doesn't show up in historical mode when the year is 1987

[upyr1]

I know ED has a database we can't edit, but is there any chance we will see this fixed? 

[Northstar98]

Only thing I will say is that Forrestal is currently depicted as it was during 1988 1986 (at the earliest) - 1993 (Mk 15 Phalanx Block 1 replacing Block 0)

Edited September 24, 2023 by Northstar98
EDIT, had the year muddled up, should be mid 1986, which is when Forrestal completed its SLEP

[upyr1]

On 6/25/2022 at 11:41 AM, Northstar98 said:

Only thing I will say is that Forrestal is currently depicted as it was during 1988 (at the earliest) - 1993 (Mk 15 Phalanx Block 1 replacing Block 0)

 

what would the 1987 fitting have been like? 

[Northstar98]

17 hours ago, upyr1 said:

what would the 1987 fitting have been like? 

From around the late 60s up to 1982, the only weapons Forrestal had were BPDMS (2× Mk 25 GMLS, each w/ 8× RIM-7E missiles), using the Mark 115 director (unsure how many). Note - it should be stated that the RIM-7E should have a shorter range and be more susceptible to jamming and clutter (being based on the AIM-7E). The Mark 115 directors are manually operated and while they supposedly had a large enough beamwidth to allow for aiming errors, I think it's more reasonable to have delayed target acquisition times, particularly in low-visibility.

Prior to that, Forrestal had 4× 5"/54 Mark 42 guns (this is the fit accurate to Forrestal's brief time in Vietnam), though was originally built with 8 (the 4 forward guns were deleted in the early 1960s (probably 1961)).

For sensors, from the early 1960s to somewhere prior to 1982, the primary air-search radars Forrestal had, were the AN/SPS-30 and AN/SPS-47. These replaced the AN/SPS-8 and 12(?) Forrestal was commissioned with, in the mid 1950s.

The AN/SPS-30 was replaced by AN/SPS-48C sometime before SLEP but I'm not sure exactly when (if the caption is accurate, this picture [source] depicts Forrestal w/ AN/SPS-47 and AN/SPS-48 and is dated 1978). The -47 was replaced by -49 during SLEP (and is what we have, despite being somewhat the wrong shape).

After SLEP (mid 1986 - note, I had the date muddled up), Forrestal had what we see now (mostly), with 3 Mk 29 GMLS for NSSMS/IBPDMS, firing the RIM-7H (later upgraded to RIM-7M, which is what we have) and 3 Mk 15 Phalanx Block 0 (not sure if Forrestal was upgraded to Block 1 Phalanx, though Block 1 is what we see in DCS (longer magazine), if it was it would've been after 1989).

In any case, if HB want to be particular about it, our version of the Forrestal should, at the earliest (it's not like the difference between Phalanx Block 0 and 1 is modelled) should range from June 1986 to September 1993 (though was redesignated as a training carrier in February 1992).

Edited September 25, 2023 by Northstar98