Not using my Virpil gear for a while, everything seems on the fritz... :-(

[Double Dutch]

Hello,

Because I was moving house and had quite a bit of renovating to do. I had my Virpil gear in storage (stick, throttle and rudder). Today I wanted to set up my DCS again and connected my gear. I went in the plane, free flight and really nothing seem to work. I checked in virpil tester and all my gear seem to be working however I had to calibrate everything again. Then I noticed that when I wanted to check my settings in DCS, they were also not working normal anymore. It seemed that a lot of the hard work for configuring my gear was gone. Even my Rudder didn't work as it should anymore. Example, my flaps handle from my throttle keeps getting assigned to my rudder for some reason.

I tried to reconfigure the basics but for some reason DCS doesn't auto detect the movement on the hotas anymore when try to assign something.

it took a lot of time in google and configuring to get DCS to work, but it seems I am f*cked. Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this? If I have to start from scratch would this be a good time to update the firmware and software?

 

 

[dawgie79]

After calibration you need to rebind all the controls. That should work. Maybe otherwise reflash them first?

Before rebinding first remove all the bindings for each device.

Edited July 12, 2022 by dawgie79

[Double Dutch]

1 hour ago, dawgie79 said:

After calibration you need to rebind all the controls. That should work. Maybe otherwise reflash them first?

Before rebinding first remove all the bindings for each device.

 

Any idea why DCS keep adding rudder to my flaps control?

Does it mean I also have configure my throttle for detent and flaps axis to buttons again?

And would you know what my buttons are recognised in the Virpil test tool but when i want to configure my little joystick button to the vertical en horizontal TDC it won't be recognised (like with my rudder)?

 

How do you reflash?

Edited July 12, 2022 by Double Dutch

[_Hoss]

Clear everything that shows up in your controller columns and start over with Axis first, clear everything.. start new, then control binds.. flaps, guns.

Happens to me when I mess things up too. You will have to do this for every single module unless you have that injector mod that makes the change for all your planes.

[rob10]

Also, check that you’re binding in sim mode rather than game mode (and that you have DCS in the same mode).  Mixing those 2 things are often the root of binding issues.

[Double Dutch]

13 hours ago, rob10 said:

Also, check that you’re binding in sim mode rather than game mode (and that you have DCS in the same mode).  Mixing those 2 things are often the root of binding issues.

I did in sim mode in config. section. How do I check if DCS is in SIM mode?

14 hours ago, 352nd_Hoss said:

Clear everything that shows up in your controller columns and start over with Axis first, clear everything.. start new, then control binds.. flaps, guns.

Happens to me when I mess things up too. You will have to do this for every single module unless you have that injector mod that makes the change for all your planes.

I did that for my rudder pedals, but when al is clear and I click on Rudder to configure (and i comes up empty), I move my rudder and it does autofill when I move the axis  

[dawgie79]

On 7/12/2022 at 4:25 PM, Double Dutch said:

Any idea why DCS keep adding rudder to my flaps control?

Does it mean I also have configure my throttle for detent and flaps axis to buttons again?

And would you know what my buttons are recognised in the Virpil test tool but when i want to configure my little joystick button to the vertical en horizontal TDC it won't be recognised (like with my rudder)?

 

How do you reflash?

 

No, I don't know why DCS is doing that. But it could be it's trying to help you by adding certain controllers with axis to some bindings. Don't know for sure.

But as I said. Best thing to do is update your controllers to the newest firmware, then redo the calibration on all the axis on your controllers. You've written you've already done that. After calibration you need to configure your controller again, for example, if you previously had axis-to-buttons configured, you need to do that again.

All of this is done in the Virpil Software. For instructions how to do that, check the manual located here: VPC Software - Technical Overview : VIRPIL Controls Support Center

See here for several video tutorials is that helps: 

 

After you've setup your controllers the way you want in the Virpil Software, only then you should redo the bindings in DCS itself.

So to summarize, in this order:

1. Update firmware of your controllers with VPC Software
2. Redo the calibration for all the axis on your controllers in the VPC Software
3. Reconfigure all the settings you want on your controllers, i.e. axis-to-buttons and stuff like that, in the VPC Software
4. Bind all your controls in DCS again

Hope this helps.

Edited July 15, 2022 by dawgie79

[Double Dutch]

On 7/13/2022 at 4:14 PM, dawgie79 said:

No, I don't know why DCS is doing that. But it could be it's trying to help you by adding certain controllers with axis to some bindings. Don't know for sure.

But as I said. Best thing to do is update your controllers to the newest firmware, then redo the calibration on all the axis on your controllers. You've written you've already done that. After calibration you need to configure your controller again, for example, if you previously had axis-to-buttons configured, you need to do that again.

All of this is done in the Virpil Software. For instructions how to do that, check the manual located here: VPC Software - Technical Overview : VIRPIL Controls Support Center

See here for several video tutorials is that helps: 

 

After you've setup your controllers the way you want in the Virpil Software, only then you should redo the bindings in DCS itself.

So to summarize, in this order:

1. Update firmware of your controllers with VPC Software
2. Redo the calibration of all the axis on your controllers in the VPC Software
3. Reconfigure all the settings you want on your controllers, i.e. axis-to-buttons and stuff like that, in the VPC Software
4. Bind all your controls in DCS again

Hope this helps.

 

thanks I will try this! I can also save profiles can't I? Maybe a good idea to do that as well, what would be the best time to do it before and after I do all the axis's - buttons again?

[dawgie79]

4 hours ago, Double Dutch said:

thanks I will try this! I can also save profiles can't I? Maybe a good idea to do that as well, what would be the best time to do it before and after I do all the axis's - buttons again?

In the Youtube playlist you will also find a video on how to save to profile if I remember correctly. Obviously save it after you've configured your controllers. 

[imacken]

On 7/12/2022 at 2:13 PM, Double Dutch said:

Hello,

Because I was moving house and had quite a bit of renovating to do. I had my Virpil gear in storage (stick, throttle and rudder). Today I wanted to set up my DCS again and connected my gear. I went in the plane, free flight and really nothing seem to work. I checked in virpil tester and all my gear seem to be working however I had to calibrate everything again. Then I noticed that when I wanted to check my settings in DCS, they were also not working normal anymore. It seemed that a lot of the hard work for configuring my gear was gone. Even my Rudder didn't work as it should anymore. Example, my flaps handle from my throttle keeps getting assigned to my rudder for some reason.

I tried to reconfigure the basics but for some reason DCS doesn't auto detect the movement on the hotas anymore when try to assign something.

it took a lot of time in google and configuring to get DCS to work, but it seems I am f*cked. Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this? If I have to start from scratch would this be a good time to update the firmware and software?

Sounds to me like the Windows GUID might have changed since you last used your VPC kit.  This would mean you would lose your DCS binds. But there are ways round this.

(BTW, you don't lose your VPC settings if you do a recalibration of axes.)

Always, always save your VPC profile before updating the firmware.  Then, you are always able to load the old profile to retain your settings. (Recalibrate axes is also recommended.)

With respect to the GUID changing, there are 2 ways round this. firstly, you can import your old device profiles in DCS. however, that is a pain as you have to do that for every module and every device. Still, it is quicker than rebinding.  The second, and by far the best solution for the future, is to use a fantastic utility called JoyPro.  Among other amazing functions regarding DCS binding, it does a one click reassignment of devices when there is an GUID change.

Links here 

JoystickProfiler/Builds at master · Holdi601/JoystickProfiler · GitHub