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Bought the Hind when it dropped, but just getting around to using it now. Unfortunately, the vids, tutorials, docs seem to all be somewhat out of date, but I've done my best setting up the controls for the HOTAS. Seems to be working. I'm fine with the rockets and guns, but Petrovich refuses to fire the missiles.

All vids and docs I've seen are over a year old, can someone confirm the current font colour for the target list he comes up with lol? Is it supposed to be red or white? All vids/docs show it as being white. When he gives me the list the font is red. I'm just trying to determine if maybe the font has changed to red and that it's working as normal as such, or there's something I'm missing, it's supposed to be white and that's why he's not firing.

I've set up my hotas properly,

I've watch/read all the vids/doc.

I slew my head to the target area,

I press up-short

he picks up targets after a few secs,

he displays the list of targets to choose from (in red font).

My reticle is beige.

I fly toward to the target,

I line up my reticle with his,

I get tone

All switches lights I think are in the green (based of the year old vids)

I click right-short on the ai menu but the list disappears... annnnd then I fly over teh target with nothing happening 'cept me taking fire lol.

Or I hit fire/designate and the menu flashes off and then on but no firing

 

2 pics,

1st just showing the red font(normal?)

2nd pic, can anyone see anything I've missed in the cockpit. I mean there's not that much to set up to get these of the rail..or so I thought

Is there something obvious here I've missed? It's happened before.

 

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Trespasser

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1 hour ago, Trespasser said:

Bought the Hind when it dropped, but just getting around to using it now. Unfortunately, the vids, tutorials, docs seem to all be somewhat out of date, but I've done my best setting up the controls for the HOTAS. Seems to be working. I'm fine with the rockets and guns, but Petrovich refuses to fire the missiles.

All vids and docs I've seen are over a year old, can someone confirm the current font colour for the target list he comes up with lol? Is it supposed to be red or white? All vids/docs show it as being white. When he gives me the list the font is red. I'm just trying to determine if maybe the font has changed to red and that it's working as normal as such, or there's something I'm missing, it's supposed to be white and that's why he's not firing.

I've set up my hotas properly,

I've watch/read all the vids/doc.

I slew my head to the target area,

I press up-short

he picks up targets after a few secs,

he displays the list of targets to choose from (in red font).

My reticle is beige.

I fly toward to the target,

I line up my reticle with his,

I get tone

All switches lights I think are in the green (based of the year old vids)

I click right-short on the ai menu but the list disappears... annnnd then I fly over teh target with nothing happening 'cept me taking fire lol.

Or I hit fire/designate and the menu flashes off and then on but no firing

 

2 pics,

1st just showing the red font(normal?)

2nd pic, can anyone see anything I've missed in the cockpit. I mean there's not that much to set up to get these of the rail..or so I thought

Is there something obvious here I've missed? It's happened before.

 

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Trespasser

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The red front is is the identification mechanic 

 

 

Petro is not firing becuase you need to be in auto fire, which you can toggle with up long. But most people don’t use auto fire becuase if you lock a friendly then Petro will shoot a friendly. 
 

In the default hold fire mode, you can fire an ATGM just by holding the weapon fire button (same one you use for guns and rockets) to fire, or using the designate target button. Using the regular weapon fire button is easiest 

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Pretty sure I've tried all those, but thank you.

All of the vids I've watched so far have had petro in NON-free fire mode, (beige reticle). So that's how I set mine up. Honestly I'm not fussed if I have to tell him to fire or he fires the missile himself. I'm much more interested in the missile coming off the rail in the first place lol.

In free-fire(green reticle), he does nothing. In non-free fire(beige reticle) he does nothing. He selects a target, I line-up my reticle, I get tone, I get within range and order him to fire and nada.

Just cant figure what I'm not doing correctly.

But I at least thank you for confirming the target IDs are in red font because that's how my simple mission was set up.

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11 hours ago, Trespasser said:

Pretty sure I've tried all those, but thank you.

All of the vids I've watched so far have had petro in NON-free fire mode, (beige reticle). So that's how I set mine up. Honestly I'm not fussed if I have to tell him to fire or he fires the missile himself. I'm much more interested in the missile coming off the rail in the first place lol.

In free-fire(green reticle), he does nothing. In non-free fire(beige reticle) he does nothing. He selects a target, I line-up my reticle, I get tone, I get within range and order him to fire and nada.

Just cant figure what I'm not doing correctly.

But I at least thank you for confirming the target IDs are in red font because that's how my simple mission was set up.

 

I use "Release Weapons" since the release of the Hind and had never problems with Petrovich firing ATGM.

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Are you aware of the following bug?

 

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I have had issues like this. One thing I find is that if I re-arm, I cannot turn on the switches to activate weapons and fire control and so forth until AFTER rearming is complete. Otherwise I can't fire anything but the 30mm gun. This makes for a frustrating experience when you think everything is ready and you hit fire and nothing happens.

Also when looking at your list above, once Petro finds a list of targets, you have to select one (short right) first, earlier in your list. Don't wait til later. Once selected, you can actually turn off the triangular sighting and he'll hold the target. Fly with the target in the reticle until you get tone. I used to use auto-fire (long up) but like to launch when I'm ready myself. 

Looking at your cockpit screenie, everything looks like its on as its supposed to be. Petro can be very quirky I'm finding.

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Looks like Petro fix just was included in the beta:

DCS: Mi-24P by Eagle Dynamics

  • Added. First wave of voice-overs for Petrovich AI. Same amount as in AH-64D, more coming with future updates.
  • Added. New ATGM sight texturing and FOV changes, adjusting it closer to real specs.
  • Added. New routine for Petrovich AI, when S-5 rockets used with bombs Petrovich will choose appropriate mode with bomb/pods switch (for this system to work bombs should be on racks 1 and 4)
  • Added. Kord gun iron sights deployed
  • Added. New ATGM and empty rack icon for weapon payload manager
  • Fixed. Weapon Selector control mapping duplicates
  • Fixed. R-60 missile panel hints and control buttons remain when R-60 equipment is disabled
  • Fixed. Client camera not moving to Kord gun place if Kord is added after rearm
  • Fixed. Petrovich AI "Designate target/open fire" button function bugged
  • Fixed. Petrovich AI NATO AI target list color scheme works as Coalition AI color scheme
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Fingers crossed.

Just getting back in the cockpit to test again after the beta update. Thanks for the many responses. We'll see what happens.

I should have been a bit more clear. I'm attempting to shoot from the pilot seat, not the CPG. So I'm using Petro AI to order him to shoot using the big red button on my Gunfighter Pro labeled "Press me to kill people". It's bound to - "Designate Target" or "Open Fire" command to gunner -

@unknown thanks for that heads up. was not aware of that rather significant bug till u posted it.

 

Cheers all

Trespasser.

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just starting up.. That's fun. I use VA and said "weapons" and Petro responded with voice.. That's a new one. least it wasn't doing that yesterday

 

EDIT: 10 mins later... Woohoo! Shturms firing ok and Petro seems very happy about it too. "YEEEAAAHH! Good effects on target." NICE.

I will say I'm not sure if its working quite properly. The first time I tried to fire Petro responded with basically "Too Far, Get me closer" which was fine as I was about 12km out lol.

However, I tried again at 9km just to hear him say the same thing and he actually fired the damn thing.

I thought the limit was about 3-5km for the shturm?

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3 hours ago, Trespasser said:

thanks for that heads up. was not aware of that rather significant bug till u posted it.

If you use(had used) the binding "release weapon" in my pic you would have never noticed that bug. There are 2 different ATGM(114old and 120new) you can use. 

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4 hours ago, Trespasser said:

just starting up.. That's fun. I use VA and said "weapons" and Petro responded with voice.. That's a new one. least it wasn't doing that yesterday

 

EDIT: 10 mins later... Woohoo! Shturms firing ok and Petro seems very happy about it too. "YEEEAAAHH! Good effects on target." NICE.

I will say I'm not sure if its working quite properly. The first time I tried to fire Petro responded with basically "Too Far, Get me closer" which was fine as I was about 12km out lol.

However, I tried again at 9km just to hear him say the same thing and he actually fired the damn thing.

I thought the limit was about 3-5km for the shturm?

Just becuase range is 5 km for Shturm and 6 km for Ataka does not mean you can shoot them farther. Even Shturm and Ataka can hit targets at 7 km if you give them some altitude. 8 km easy on approaching helicopters 

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I'm also finding that if the targets move into a forested area, the ATGM's will often hit the trees and miss the targets until you have a clean view of them. I had this happen a lot on Marianas with a convoy that drove down a dead-end road and dispersed into the forest. 

Loving the Mi24. 

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