SU-25T; Georgian Oil War; 1st Mission. No Green and Red smoke like in YT videos?

[TheCabal]

Hello folks,

I'm trying the SU-25T campaign as in the title and have problems making out where the enemy is in the first campaign mission. I'm totally clueless. The briefing only shows the frontline... no info on where these waypoints are located and what exactly to do. Flying between WP5 and WP6 (to recon) is pure suicide.

When watching a few vids on YT, I saw that WP4 triggered green smoke and red smoke to mark friendly & enemy positions. This, somehow, didn't happen here. Just got DCS installed and updated (Stable) as usual. Am I missing something here?

Jesus... first time touching the SU-25T and then this.

Greetings,

Cabal

[Mike_Romeo]

On 10/13/2022 at 2:00 PM, TheCabal said:

I'm totally clueless. The briefing only shows the frontline... no info on where these waypoints are located

Edited October 15, 2022 by Mike_Romeo

[Mike_Romeo]

Over the mission planer, you can also change your weapon loadout.

[TheCabal]

Hi Mike!

Hmm your mission is ATO A.03.3 while I start the campaign with ATO A.03.4? I restarted it and got the ATO A.03.4 again. 
Totally confused. Besides: this mission "ATO A.03.4" is strange as well.. overflying the enemy which asks for being shot down. 

[Mike_Romeo]

20 hours ago, TheCabal said:

Hi Mike!

Hmm your mission is ATO A.03.3 while I start the campaign with ATO A.03.4? I restarted it and got the ATO A.03.4 again. 
Totally confused. Besides: this mission "ATO A.03.4" is strange as well.. overflying the enemy which asks for being shot down. 

There are multiple version for several stages of the campaign so that when you fail,you dont run the excat same situation again. I higly recommend to use the mission planer and to read the mission briefing to know what you objective is. You can even move waypoints in the mission planer. A mission briefing should be the most normal thing in combat flight sim.

[dlder]

Sorry to necro such an old thread, but I too was struggling quite a bit; I only use the Mission Planer to change the loadout to my liking (for me, Cluster Bombs are useless^^), but I never look at the map and unit location.

Don't wanna cheat, right?

But in this campaign, I did do that and saw, that you only get to know the position of a few select units. The "dangerous" ones, like Manpads and SAMs seem to be hidden AND random, so every time you start the mission it'll be different.

Also, they do a rather complex point system. You start with 50 - at least in this mission - and if a group of friendlies is lost, you loose points and if too many die, you fail the mission. Thinking about that, I should try that. Would be interesting to see which mission you get after that, if any.

And for destroying groups of enemies (not units though!), you get points. Like one tank group is worth 15pts. AAA is 5 or something... everything has points attached to it. I've never seen anything as complex as this in DCS. For instance, I got shot down and had 75 points, so I "completed" the mission and went from 3.3 to 4.3.

And I know I should just roll with it, but I really would like to actually complete the mission, but unfortunately the AI Wingman is rather useless with all the anti-air and in the end, I too get shot down. Manpad, effin helicopter, Shilka or a lucky AAA position^^. This is for sure the toughest campaign I've played to date!

@NineLine Congrats to ED, this is some massive and awesome work you've done for this campaign. A precursors to a really dynamic campaign.

It'll be interesting, how many more hours I need, until I manage to finish even the 1st mission