RichCotte Posted December 18, 2022 Posted December 18, 2022 I’m attempting to get a flight of four B-52s to carpet boom the same area. However, the flight lines up in a following formation and all drop their bombs at the same time. The lead aircraft hits the target and all of the others hit somewhere short of the target. Does anyone know how to get the flight to all bomb the same target off of the same waypoint? Or, do I have to spawn the aircraft individually and have them all use their own waypoint and carpet bombing command?
stolzy Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 I had the same problem What seemed to fix it for me is to have the aircraft on a lateral formation (echelon for example). Then they all usually bomb the same target. However, this is hardley realistic as all the bombs falll on the same line. Surely it should be possible to have some degree of lateral separation between where each aircraft's bombs fall (otherwise it's 'multiple point bombing' rather than 'carpet bombing'. You can modify the pattern length, but not the pattern width. 1
Ironhand Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Have you run across this? 1 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
RichCotte Posted December 30, 2022 Author Posted December 30, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 11:00 AM, Ironhand said: Have you run across this? No, I hadn’t seen that one yet. Thanks, I’ll give it a try with some B-52s and see how it works out.
MurrayCod Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 I've got a similar issue with B52s and the B1. I have watched the Grim Reapers video but all I get in my test mission is the B52s dropping a pair of bombs on target instead of dropping all their bombs, and then they circle round to drop the next pair of bombs.
Ironhand Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 18 hours ago, RichCotte said: No, I hadn’t seen that one yet. Thanks, I’ll give it a try with some B-52s and see how it works out. Never mind. I followed their procedure and obtained results similar to those you reported in your first post. Only the lead’s bombs hit the right area. All others land early. 8 hours ago, MurrayCod said: I've got a similar issue with B52s and the B1. I have watched the Grim Reapers video but all I get in my test mission is the B52s dropping a pair of bombs on target instead of dropping all their bombs, and then they circle round to drop the next pair of bombs. Did you set the amount for them to release to “All”? YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
MurrayCod Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Ironhand said: Never mind. I followed their procedure and obtained results similar to those you reported in your first post. Only the lead’s bombs hit the right area. All others land early. Did you set the amount for them to release to “All”? Yes, I did do that
RichCotte Posted January 6, 2023 Author Posted January 6, 2023 Okay, I'm not sure what's up, but I'm not getting the formations to form up. When I follow his instructions, only the lead AC of each element forms up on the leader. The rest lag behing in trail, never forming up into the box. ??????????
Exorcet Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 If you are having trouble with a mission, please post it. It makes debugging much easier. I added a flight of 4 B-52 to the map and they dropped all their bombs in a single pass. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
RichCotte Posted January 6, 2023 Author Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Exorcet said: If you are having trouble with a mission, please post it. It makes debugging much easier. I added a flight of 4 B-52 to the map and they dropped all their bombs in a single pass. Makes sense. I’ll get it copied and posted up tomorrow.
Exorcet Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 In case I don't get to it tomorrow, from my testing: Don't use carpet bombing for attacking a small target or target point, this by design uses the formation of the bombers to determine the increase the spread of bombs. Use a regular bombing task, set weapon to bombs, release all, and make sure "group attack" is checked. Make sure the bombing waypoint is a few miles from the target (20 or so miles). Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
RichCotte Posted January 8, 2023 Author Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 8:54 PM, Exorcet said: In case I don't get to it tomorrow, from my testing: Don't use carpet bombing for attacking a small target or target point, this by design uses the formation of the bombers to determine the increase the spread of bombs. Use a regular bombing task, set weapon to bombs, release all, and make sure "group attack" is checked. Make sure the bombing waypoint is a few miles from the target (20 or so miles). Okay, so I backed up and I'm just trying to get the bombers to fly in formation before moving on to a bombing run. In the attached mission, The lead element forms up while the trail element flies S patterns. The lead AC of the trail element then forms up on the lead element and the remaining AC lag behind in linear formation and never form up. Any Ideas? Bomber Formation Test_01.miz
Exorcet Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RichCotte said: Okay, so I backed up and I'm just trying to get the bombers to fly in formation before moving on to a bombing run. In the attached mission, The lead element forms up while the trail element flies S patterns. The lead AC of the trail element then forms up on the lead element and the remaining AC lag behind in linear formation and never form up. You have two formation options in the same waypoint. The default trail that is autocreated with the group and a modern bomber formation that you added. I'm guessing you want the second one. Either delete the trail formation, or delete the modern formation and set the autogenerated trail to modern. This will give you the formation you expect. As for the S turns, your groups are close together at spawn. Separate them so that they have more room to maneuver into position. Edited January 8, 2023 by Exorcet 1 Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
RichCotte Posted January 8, 2023 Author Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Exorcet said: You have two formation options in the same waypoint. The default trail that is autocreated with the group and a modern bomber formation that you added. I'm guessing you want the second one. Either delete the trail formation, or delete the modern formation and set the autogenerated trail to modern. This will give you the formation you expect. As for the S turns, your groups are close together at spawn. Separate them so that they have more room to maneuver into position. Thanks!!! I guess that's autogenerated, so I'll tinker with it.
RichCotte Posted January 8, 2023 Author Posted January 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Exorcet said: You have two formation options in the same waypoint. The default trail that is autocreated with the group and a modern bomber formation that you added. I'm guessing you want the second one. Either delete the trail formation, or delete the modern formation and set the autogenerated trail to modern. This will give you the formation you expect. As for the S turns, your groups are close together at spawn. Separate them so that they have more room to maneuver into position. That solved the formation issue, THANKS!!! Now on to seeing what happens when I give the a target...
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