Can't Rearm & Refuel using keybind, have to use ground crew radio/F1-10 menu to work

[Chaos_Out]

I have a keybind that directly brings up the Rearm/Refuel menu when I need to use it.  This has worked for every single module I've used (a lot of them).  However, when I use it for the BS3, the ground crew never replies and I never get any weapons or fuel.  To successfully get the BS3 to rearm/refuel, I HAVE to use the F1-10 menu options "Ground Crew -> Re-arm & Refuel" for it to work.  The ground crew will then reply and proceed to arm and fuel.  Is this a bug or done on purpose?  Tested in both SP and MP, easy radio mode (or whatever it's called).  Again, only module where I am required to go through the radio menu to rearm/refuel.

Thanks

[LeCuvier]

Tried to reproduce the issue. I bound the command to a button on my old joystick, and it works.

I cannot imagine why it wouldn't work for you. Only explanation I can think of, that you might be trying to re-bind a button that's bound to UI Layer or "General".

[Jel]

You have to set your SPU-9 intercom system to "GRND" (left side panel) in order to talk to ground crew. Having done so, you can use the rearm/refuel window again - ground will answer you.

This is quite common for some modules having realistic intercom sets. Alternatively you can just open the canopy/cockpit door, although using the correct intercom set position is closer to how it actually works, especially on a rather loud helo

Edited January 2, 2023 by Jel

[Chaos_Out]

On 12/30/2022 at 7:08 AM, LeCuvier said:

Tried to reproduce the issue. I bound the command to a button on my old joystick, and it works.

I cannot imagine why it wouldn't work for you. Only explanation I can think of, that you might be trying to re-bind a button that's bound to UI Layer or "General".

Are you saying you actually get the ground crew to  acknowledge your request to rearm/refuel just using the basic/default rearm/refuel keybind without messing with any radio settings or F menus?  You can go Ka-50 III -> Instant Action ->  Runway Takeoff (Caucasus) -> (when loaded) LAlt + ' -> pick any loadout -> and then the ground crew acknowledges and completes your request?  Yes, I got it to work using the F menu, not with the default keybind.

I'm not referring to bringing up the menu.  To be more specific, I haven't rebound anything, I've been using the default keybind of LAlt + ' and then use Voice Attack to bring it up.  Even manually pressing LAlt + ' doesn't change the outcome.  This is the default keybind used in all of my aircraft and they all work except for the Ka-50 III.  I rebound it to a random MFD button to test that, and it still didn't work.

On 1/2/2023 at 5:25 AM, Jel said:

You have to set your SPU-9 intercom system to "GRND" (left side panel) in order to talk to ground crew. Having done so, you can use the rearm/refuel window again - ground will answer you.

This is quite common for some modules having realistic intercom sets. Alternatively you can just open the canopy/cockpit door, although using the correct intercom set position is closer to how it actually works, especially on a rather loud helo

 

I refuse to believe that this is the only aircraft that requires a button to be switched for the ground crew to hear you.  It especially doesn't make sense when I can get them to rearm and refuel using the \ menu -> F8 Ground Crew ->F1 rearm/refuel, without touching a single switch in the cockpit.

Edit/Update: When I set the switch to GRND, using the default keybind for rearm/refuel did work, however, since I use the easy radio mode, and have never had to adjust anything in any other aircraft, I still feel like this is a bug.

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Chaos_Out

[Schlomo1933]

It’s not a bug.

If your engines are off, you can also let the door open, to talk to the groundcrew. 
 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Schlomo1933

[Jel]

It is intended behavior, you can see the same effect on the A10C also for example. I really whish they did this to all modules, however i also have to agree that with "easy comms" this shouldn´t be a thing. It´s a cheat mode anyway, along with invulnerability or infinite fuel, for people that decided to make things easier, so why bother ?

Edited January 6, 2023 by Jel

[LeCuvier]

@Chaos_Out: Yes, I can do exactly what you describe and use LAlt + ' instead of a bound button,. This brings up the "Mission Ressources" pop-up where I define the loadout I want and hit OK. Then the ground crew acknowledges my request and executes.
However, I have to switch the radio to the "GRND" position in order to speak to the ground crew. I don't understand why you "refuse to believe...". This is a simulation, and it simulates how the real thing works. The menu is a game feature that you can use if you want to.

[Chaos_Out]

9 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

@Chaos_Out: Yes, I can do exactly what you describe and use LAlt + ' instead of a bound button,. This brings up the "Mission Ressources" pop-up where I define the loadout I want and hit OK. Then the ground crew acknowledges my request and executes.
However, I have to switch the radio to the "GRND" position in order to speak to the ground crew. I don't understand why you "refuse to believe...". This is a simulation, and it simulates how the real thing works. The menu is a game feature that you can use if you want to.

So, technically, no, you couldn't do that as I mentioned, because I specifically said "without messing with any radio settings or F menus."  This is a simulation with built in shortcuts for people who don't want to deal with every little tidbit of a real aircraft.  I have that shortcut activated with easy comms.  Not a single other aircraft has this issue with this setting, and as the person above you mentioned

9 hours ago, Jel said:

i also have to agree that with "easy comms" this shouldn´t be a thing.

That's been my whole point this entire time.  I think most dismissed the easy comms part, since, by the book, a radio switch does need to be toggled.  I'm not trying to argue how real life policy and procedure is executed. 

Now that I have a better understanding of what the problem is, I could probably just say that easy comms is partially broken in the Ka-50 III.  Partially, because you can still talk to ground crew in the F menu without having to toggle the radio switch.  Keybind toggling rearm/refuel is broken.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Chaos_Out