F14 idle with TM Warthog throttle awkward

[stenji]

Comparing to F18 which has 2 keys each engine to move to idle and close the shutoff valve, F14 has only a "toggle" button to cutoff so I cannot find the solution to my goal: I need throttle lever in the cockpit moving according to the Warthog.

My F18 "TARGET script" is:

MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLELOFF, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME); 
MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLEROFF, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME, PULSE+R_SHIFT+HOME);
MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLELON,  PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END);
MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLERON, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END, PULSE+R_SHIFT+END);
      

For F14 Instead I tried those following lines which works well when I turn on the engines but they can not off them:

MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLELOFF, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME); 

MapKeyIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLEROFF,PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END);

MapKeyRIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLELON, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME, PULSE+R_ALT+HOME);
MapKeyRIOUMD(&Throttle, IDLERON, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END, PULSE+R_ALT+END);
      

Anyone has some suggestion on this topic?

[scommander2]

I have not paid attention for my F-14 key binding.

Two scenarios based on [my TM throttle  JOY_BTN19 for Right Engine Cutoff  (ENG OPER - right)]

- cold start: 1. the TM switch is middle - right engine off, 2. switch down - right throttle no action (JOY_BTN19 is kicked in), 3. switch back to middle -  right throttle is moved to idle

- started (right engine throttle back to the idle position and the TM switch is middle):  1. switch down - to cut off the right engine (JOY_BTN19 is kicked in), 2. switch back to middle - right RPM is off since it has been cut off at the step 1, unless crank the right to restart engine (assume left engine is still on).

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by scommander2

[stenji]

OK but according to my setup the throttle levers in game are syncronized to the ones of the TM Warthog Throttle. So when I start a mission is not realistc I found the levers in a middle position when airplane is off.... Isn't it?

[scommander2]

1 hour ago, stenji said:

the levers in a middle position when airplane is off

I always have my TM Throttle levers are at the off position before starting the cold start (regardless Axis assign always wants the levers are in middle).  Hope I understand the question correctly :-)

[stenji]

Thanks scommander2, the issue is I can move up the throttle from off to idle when I crank the engines but despite the F18 ones, the levers in F14 are not doing the reverse (passing from Idle to off position) and that's because there are no keys to "turn off" the F14 engine I guess.

[escaner]

Instead of a key combo, configure in DCS DirectX joystick events for Left Engine Cutoff and Right Engine Cutoff and in the TARGET script activate the event without the PULSE modifier. This way the DX event will stay on while the throttle is in CUTOFF and will turn off when you move the lever to IDLE. E.g.:

In TARGET:

MapKey(&Throttle, IDLERON, DX29);
MapKey(&Throttle, IDLELON, DX30);

 

In DCS:

Right Engine Cutoff: JOY_BTN29
Left Engine Cutoff: JOY_BTN30

 

[stenji]

 

1 hour ago, escaner said:

Instead of a key combo, configure in DCS DirectX joystick events for Left Engine Cutoff and Right Engine Cutoff and in the TARGET script activate the event without the PULSE modifier. This way the DX event will stay on while the throttle is in CUTOFF and will turn off when you move the lever to IDLE. E.g.:

In TARGET:

MapKey(&Throttle, IDLERON, DX29);
MapKey(&Throttle, IDLELON, DX30);

 

In DCS:

Right Engine Cutoff: JOY_BTN29
Left Engine Cutoff: JOY_BTN30

 

Thank you escaner, it works like a charm!