Viggen Cockpit Keycommand Issue For Joystick

[Devrim]

In input controllers page:

RB/BK Release Mode Valb/Preb
and
Release Mode Fallsattomkopplare Up/Down
These are two switches on the weapon panel.

Please guys (hey H.B.!) tell me, how am I supposed to assign these switches for my joystick? There's only one line for that switch.

I'll try to tell very simple: I have Saitek X-55 and it has momentary switches. I push forward the switch on my HOTAS, "Release Mode Valb/Preb switch" (in game) moves up. And then I release the switch on my HOTAS (it comes back to center), in-game switch falls down to other mode.

This is like this for years. Do I have to buy a new HOTAS that has two stage switches on it, like Trustmaster or something?

How do you guys assign those switches for your joysticks or am I missing something for those years?

Thx.

Really annoying part:
Developers should | 'd better have to think the variety of HOTAS existing in the market and they have to prepare cockpit commands to suit all HOTAS types. Do we have to buy what developer is using?

Edited January 10, 2023 by Devrim
Correction and detailing.

[Leadnap]

It's not a bug. I was very confused by this too but HB actually improved on the normal keymapping. 

Set the input for the switch (use the Release Mode switch as an example) and when you engage the switch it will switch it as desired. The "down position" is default. Once you disengage the switch it will switch to the other position. This is great because it allows you to use a single input for a two input switch, and will replicate best with a non-momentary switch which is what the real switch is. Of course this logic doesn't work if you are using a momentary switch, which is what the X-56 has. 

HB could offer two new key binds that would work for momentary inputs - but that may not work with their coding for the switches to change when an input is stopped. At the end of the day the way it works now is better for various reasons as the only downside is that momentary switches won't work. 

[Devrim]

You know that this is not first that we encounter two-position (non-momentary) switches in this module. There're a lot of these type switches in other modules too, but there're somehow suitable command lines and users can assign those in-game switches to their HOTAS properly.

And that's why I say that the developers should create more command lines that will suit for other HOTAS types.

This is a bug for me, but it's not for you apparently.

For example, ED is doing it and says "Special for Joystick" for the category. We see more and more command lines for the one action. So, user can chose the proper one and assign the action for his/her HOTAS with right way.

Addition: Even if I assign that function (Release Mode Valb) on a keyboard key, when I release the keyboard key, switch goes down. So, I can't assign those switch for the kayboard either.

So, as a home-cockpit lover, is the only way left for me switching it by mouse?... Come on...

Edited January 11, 2023 by Devrim

[Machalot]

I'll take a look at it and submit a suggestion to HB if necessary. 

As a workaround, is this video helpful? 

 

[LazyBoot]

On 1/10/2023 at 1:49 PM, Devrim said:

In input controllers page:

RB/BK Release Mode Valb/Preb
and
Release Mode Fallsattomkopplare Up/Down

I'll try to tell very simple: I have Saitek X-55 and it has momentary switches. I push forward the switch on my HOTAS, "Release Mode Valb/Preb switch" (in game) moves up. And then I release the switch on my HOTAS (it comes back to center), in-game switch falls down to other mode.

This is like this for years. Do I have to buy a new HOTAS that has two stage switches on it, like Trustmaster or something?

 

Have you looked into the Community Keybinds Project?

https://github.com/Munkwolf/dcs-community-keybinds

They add in quite a lot of the missing keybinds for the majority of modules

I did check and they do have fixes for those exact keybinds you mention having issues with.

[Machalot]

As it turns out, this is already a tracked issue based on the same request from this post:

Hopefully the community fix can work for you until it gets implemented in the module.

[Devrim]

Thanks so much guys for your replies.

@MachalotThanks for your suggestion but I think I won't prefer latche thing. Because I believe that this technique would effect all other modules. I prefer only one common preset for all aircaft.

@LazyBootOh my! Thanks so much. I was aware of those contributions but it's totally out of mind. I'll check it out as soon as possible.

[Zabuzard]

Thanks for the request. We are adding all keybinds from Munchwolf to DCS (and everything else I could find on the forum)

[Minhal]

4 minutes ago, Zabuzard said:

Thanks for the request. We are adding all keybinds from Munchwolf to DCS (and everything else I could find on the forum)

Thanks a lot for your dedication guys!