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Hi guys, Im new in DCS and building a PC for the game. I would like to go VR later so having that in mind I have couple options for my next build. I would really appreciate your help here as I am being a little confused with benchmarks and reviews on CPUs and GPUs.

1. My friend offered me great deal on: i7 11700k, 32Gb 3200 Ram, Rtx 3080. I can't find any info about how 11700k performs in DCS and I am sure its not the best. So would you recommend me go for this and if, should I invest and upgrade something from it? What quality can I expect in game with this setup?

2. Or should I skip the first offer and go for 5800X3d / 7950x with some GPU? I am considering rtx 4070ti / 4080 probably. This build would cost me more money of course as I would buy this from store brand new.

What would you recommend me on CPU and GPU for VR experience (probably Reverb G2)? I don't want to spend money and have bad experience later. I understand that I will need to tweak some things to get the FPS, I already know about poor optimisation of the game. Thank you so much guys

i7 - 11700K, Geforce RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 RAM, X56 Hotas, Meta Quest 2

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Welcome! 🙂 

It really depends on price, and if VR is something you really want to get into.

For a single monitor at 1440P (2560x1440) and even 4K (3840x2160) resolution at high settings, that "i7 11700k, 32Gb 3200 Ram, Rtx 3080" combo will absolutely kick ass.
That is still a very potent and up-to-date system. Yes there is newer and faster hardware combinations, but you may have to pay a LOT(!) more if buying new, merely to notice differences in performance increase, at all, over that.
So, if the price is right (depending where that friendly price is really "friendly"), it might translate into very heavy savings and be a great option for you.

The thing is, you mention VR is in the cards... And perhaps later you'll also want to use it in online Multiplayer...
If you're aware of the poor optimisation of DCS, you may also know that, for VR and online Multiplayer, things get even worse and requirements become pretty steep (even more).
Here, you'll want the biggest baddest Nvidia GPU you can afford (RTX4080 is a great choice then) to brute force your way into the smoothest experience.
You'll also want 64GB of RAM, as any busy and populated server will fill 32GB of RAM very fast. (side note: remember to increase the Windows pagefile to 32GB)


If in the end you decide to invest in a completely new rig from scratch, I'd recommend to wait for the new Ryzen 7800X3D (8c/16t) to be reviewed and released, as over 30% performance increase is rumoured, over the 5800X3D (which is still very good but to be discontinued - AMD AM4 socket platform is now dead).
Of course, the new Ryzen 7800X3D willl require different motherboard (AMD AM5 socket, B650 or X670) and different memory (DDR5 6000 CL30 or whereabouts), both of which are much newer and dearer, but it may be well worth it in the longer run.

 

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Thank you LucShep for the welcome and for all that information, really appreciated. The friendly price is very friendly (700$), only that If I would fall in love with DCS, VR and MP servers is must for me and there I see myself going for the beefy hardware. I think you are right about the new X3Ds, I should definitely wait and see how they perform. Just one last question, how do you think the i7 11700K with that 3080 would perform in VR? Let's say it would be with 64 Gb Ram, small upgrade.

i7 - 11700K, Geforce RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 RAM, X56 Hotas, Meta Quest 2

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13 hours ago, Deacon Frost said:

The friendly price is very friendly (700$).

😐😦😮😲 700$ ?!?!

My dude, for 700$ you can't even get a sole RTX3080, much less one with a kickass 11700K, motherboard and 32GB RAM on top!

JUST GET THAT RIG NAAUUU

(...and worry about possible upgrades later, that's definitely worth it!)

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Win10 Pro x64  |  Intel i7 12700K (OC@ 5.1/5.0p + 4.0e)  |  64GB DDR4 (OC@ 3700 CL17 Crucial Ballistix)  |  RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra  |  2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue)  |  Corsair RMX 850W  |  Asus Z690 TUF+ D4  |  TR PA120SE  |  Fractal Meshify-C  |  UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE  |  7x USB 3.0 Hub |  50'' 4K Philips PUS7608 UHD TV + Head Tracking  |  HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR)  |  TM Warthog + Logitech X56 

 

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16 hours ago, Deacon Frost said:

Thank you LucShep for the welcome and for all that information, really appreciated. The friendly price is very friendly (700$), only that If I would fall in love with DCS, VR and MP servers is must for me and there I see myself going for the beefy hardware. I think you are right about the new X3Ds, I should definitely wait and see how they perform. Just one last question, how do you think the i7 11700K with that 3080 would perform in VR? Let's say it would be with 64 Gb Ram, small upgrade.

For $700, I would grab it and run. Hell of a deal. You should be able to get acceptable VR performance. You may have to lower some eye candy, but it's not going to be an etch a sketch quality by any means. 

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I would snatch your pals hand off for that machine. That is a very similar spec to mine that I use with a Reverb G2, Sadly I bought mine when prices were daft so paid about 5 times that. 😏.

It's a very capable VR machine. Good luck and welcome to DCS

 

 

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Huge thanks to all of you guys, much appreciated and thanks to you I made my decision. See you on your six 🙂 

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