Cursor enable depress to slew seeker with JHMCS also activates ACM slewable and re-activates radar - makes unwanted lock of the bandit (workaround against accidentally moving radar cursor axis needed)

[darkman222]

Using a Winwing F16 EX Throttle now, but I have been using a warthog throttle before with the same issues.

 

Scenario is as follows:

I am sneaking up on a bandit with DGFT switch enabled. No Rad is displayed. I press cursor enable, like in the real jet. I slew the Aim9 seeker on the target.

But while depressing Cursor Enable I slightly move it which enters ACM slewable mode. I exit it with TMS down and still keeping the Aim9 seeker on the bandit. Again a slight movement of the radar cursor while holding cursor enable depressed activates ACM slewable again and the bandit gets finally locked by radar and now knows I am there.

 

Question is:

In the real jet, how un-sensitive is the cursor enable switch so the real pilot does not happen to do the same as me and move the radar cursor enable switch by accident?

Or does a cursor enable depress deactivate the movement / radar slew.

That would be a solution to deactivate inputs from the radar cursor hat while depressing it.

 

Looking for two solutions here:

-Is there a way to disable radar cursor axis input while holding cursor enable depressed in DCS?

-How would I do it in Winwings SimApp. The command could look like: While button depressed->deactivate x+y axis input.

 

Or is there a third method I did not think of?

 

Here is an image of the ACM slewable function I am talking about, so everybody is on the same page.

It auto-locks a bandit in front of the aircraft, no matter if you want it or not.

 

 

 

EDIT: New idea for SimApp Pro: It might be an idea to swap the radar cursor axis to an unmapped axis while depressed to disable axis input while being presses. Looking into it now.

Edited February 24, 2023 by darkman222

[Sinclair_76]

Maybe not the answers you're looking for. 

1: Introduce a higher dead zone in the cursor. 

or, what I did.

2: I also set button 4 (one of the extra switches on the lowe side of the grip) to cursor enable. 

I assume that the switch IRL has higher gates which prevent movement on the x/y when even slightly depressed to avoid unintentional switchology.

Edited May 11, 2023 by Sinclair_76

[darkman222]

1: Deadzone would be needed to be huge. As depressing the cursor enable switch youre kinda sliding around with the thumb, accidentally moving it a lot.

2: I need all the extra switches on the lower side of the grip, and it feels unnatural to have the cursor enable switch sitting there. I use the buttons on the lower side to VR zoom. And its hard to hold zoom and cursor enable the same time this way. But I often use it to slave the cursor on the bandit, while using the vr zoom to identify the bandit and better see what he is doing before I fire the missile at him.

3: I tried to use it as a modifier in the DCS button mapping. So the depress disables the axis. But what it did was, when I was pressing it not perfectly without any axis input, although the axis got disabled, the minimal input was kept, and the radar cursor axis kept sending the last amount of input while it was depressed. Also, the problem is I could not bind it as a command when I assigned the modifier function to it.

4: I asked Winwing if Simapp offers the possibility to deactivate an axis via a button. Negative.