GazAce Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 It seems every time I try a Trap I get a WO no matter how good my approach is. Has something changed recently with the SC LSO? My Traps aren't that bad, driving me nuts GazAce's "Skynet Rig" :: :: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K :: Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Mobo :: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Slim GPU 24GB :: NZXT Kraken Elite 280 RGB AIO White Cooler :: G Skill Trident Z Royals DDR4 4x16GB = 64GB :: WD Black SN 850X NVMe SSD 2TB M.2 (C Drive) :: Samsung 860 Pro 2TB SATA (D Drive) & a couple of other Drives adding another 1.5 TB :: Corsair Crystal 680X White Case :: Asus XG349C 34" Curve G-Sync 180Hz 3440x1440 Monitor :: MSI 1000 Watt PSU PCIE5 :: Virpil Constellation Alpha-R Stick with VPC WarBRD Base :: Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle :: 3 x CubeSim ext mini screens with TM Cougar MFD Bezels :: Asus ROG Pugio 503 Gaming Mouse & Razer BlackWidow mech kb :: TrackIR 5 Pro & Cap Clip :: Win 11 64 Bit
Gierasimov Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 Give us a track mate. My LSO in case one says Roger ball only and sometimes maybe that I am bit left. Occasionally I would get bolter but wave off I have not heard since ages. Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
GazAce Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Track File? LMAO! I get "Roger Ball" every time & "Your Low" a lot & WO like 8/10 approaches. I watch Vids of dudes Traps & I zerox them but still I get WO. Is LSO tougher now than before?? Edited March 21, 2023 by GazAce GazAce's "Skynet Rig" :: :: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K :: Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Mobo :: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Slim GPU 24GB :: NZXT Kraken Elite 280 RGB AIO White Cooler :: G Skill Trident Z Royals DDR4 4x16GB = 64GB :: WD Black SN 850X NVMe SSD 2TB M.2 (C Drive) :: Samsung 860 Pro 2TB SATA (D Drive) & a couple of other Drives adding another 1.5 TB :: Corsair Crystal 680X White Case :: Asus XG349C 34" Curve G-Sync 180Hz 3440x1440 Monitor :: MSI 1000 Watt PSU PCIE5 :: Virpil Constellation Alpha-R Stick with VPC WarBRD Base :: Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle :: 3 x CubeSim ext mini screens with TM Cougar MFD Bezels :: Asus ROG Pugio 503 Gaming Mouse & Razer BlackWidow mech kb :: TrackIR 5 Pro & Cap Clip :: Win 11 64 Bit
Dragon1-1 Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 Which aircraft? The LSO is tuned for the Hornet, and that tuning is pretty meh. For the Tomcat, even a perfect approach isn't going to make him happy, because Tomcat is much slower when on speed in the groove. 1
GazAce Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 Yea I meant Hornet. A while back I used to get pretty good Traps. I admit not 3rd wire all the time but few WO. Lately it seems LSO is more strict with more WO. I'll keep trying *sigh* GazAce's "Skynet Rig" :: :: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K :: Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Mobo :: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Slim GPU 24GB :: NZXT Kraken Elite 280 RGB AIO White Cooler :: G Skill Trident Z Royals DDR4 4x16GB = 64GB :: WD Black SN 850X NVMe SSD 2TB M.2 (C Drive) :: Samsung 860 Pro 2TB SATA (D Drive) & a couple of other Drives adding another 1.5 TB :: Corsair Crystal 680X White Case :: Asus XG349C 34" Curve G-Sync 180Hz 3440x1440 Monitor :: MSI 1000 Watt PSU PCIE5 :: Virpil Constellation Alpha-R Stick with VPC WarBRD Base :: Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle :: 3 x CubeSim ext mini screens with TM Cougar MFD Bezels :: Asus ROG Pugio 503 Gaming Mouse & Razer BlackWidow mech kb :: TrackIR 5 Pro & Cap Clip :: Win 11 64 Bit
Gierasimov Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Hi @GazAce So here is the thing how LSO works in DCS: Personally I think you are being affected by: Two or more of the above conditions are true at the same time for a 2 second or more duration or excessive glidepath and localizer deviation for more than 4 seconds. However, if you want to prove my theory wrong, and you want ED to accept as bug, please provide the track - you know that already anyway. Edited March 21, 2023 by Gierasimov 2 Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
GazAce Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 Thanks Gierasimov, I appreciate your input & reply mate. Also appreciate directing me to the top half of page 36 Supercarrier Ops Guide & yes I have read this.. many times my friend. I'm not reporting this as a Bug, just merely asking the question that if the LSO conditions for an acceptable approach has changed within the last 6 months or so? GazAce's "Skynet Rig" :: :: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K :: Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Mobo :: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Slim GPU 24GB :: NZXT Kraken Elite 280 RGB AIO White Cooler :: G Skill Trident Z Royals DDR4 4x16GB = 64GB :: WD Black SN 850X NVMe SSD 2TB M.2 (C Drive) :: Samsung 860 Pro 2TB SATA (D Drive) & a couple of other Drives adding another 1.5 TB :: Corsair Crystal 680X White Case :: Asus XG349C 34" Curve G-Sync 180Hz 3440x1440 Monitor :: MSI 1000 Watt PSU PCIE5 :: Virpil Constellation Alpha-R Stick with VPC WarBRD Base :: Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle :: 3 x CubeSim ext mini screens with TM Cougar MFD Bezels :: Asus ROG Pugio 503 Gaming Mouse & Razer BlackWidow mech kb :: TrackIR 5 Pro & Cap Clip :: Win 11 64 Bit
Gierasimov Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 To my knowledge and experience LSO calls and rules for those calls are as they were. Grades changed when carrier burble was introduced and no matter what I do, I always get 'cut' penalty when I advance throttles after touchdown. I read its related to touch and go mechanics that are WIP so I am waiting for it. Other than that, I don't get wave offs unless I do really silly approach. One more thing, Is this case 1 pattern you are doing ornis this straight in approach and what's your initial altitude? Even though this isn't a bug you say, it would be helpful to attach track or video (since not a bug report) Yeah, I know you know the manual mate. 1 Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
GazAce Posted March 22, 2023 Author Posted March 22, 2023 Ok thanks, you've answered my question. My post ends here 1 GazAce's "Skynet Rig" :: :: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K :: Asus ROG Strix Z790-A Mobo :: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 MSI Gaming Slim GPU 24GB :: NZXT Kraken Elite 280 RGB AIO White Cooler :: G Skill Trident Z Royals DDR4 4x16GB = 64GB :: WD Black SN 850X NVMe SSD 2TB M.2 (C Drive) :: Samsung 860 Pro 2TB SATA (D Drive) & a couple of other Drives adding another 1.5 TB :: Corsair Crystal 680X White Case :: Asus XG349C 34" Curve G-Sync 180Hz 3440x1440 Monitor :: MSI 1000 Watt PSU PCIE5 :: Virpil Constellation Alpha-R Stick with VPC WarBRD Base :: Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle :: 3 x CubeSim ext mini screens with TM Cougar MFD Bezels :: Asus ROG Pugio 503 Gaming Mouse & Razer BlackWidow mech kb :: TrackIR 5 Pro & Cap Clip :: Win 11 64 Bit
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