Mission #2 ACLS problems.... please help!

[Drakentoth]

Hello! I'm having troubles with the acls case III landing. I'll give a rundown to lessen the need for questions. 300 kts at 6,000 ft on course 316 calling established. Get data from mother on acls screen. at 21 dme, calling commencing. once again getting data from mother and checking in. while passing through 5,000 ft at 4,000 fpm decent rate at 250 kts, calling platform and reducing decent rate to 2,000 fpm (as the new data on the acls screen instructs me to). at 10 miles, go into landing configuration (hook, gear, flaps, on speed). at 6 miles, after calling needles, engage apt cpl to get a pitch and roll cpl, as well as atc. the acft flies itself to the deck..... but bolters every time! Is this built into the mission or i am doing something wrong? seriously frustrating. seems as if the jet is staying in ground effect due to the heavy winds and overshooting the wires?

[Badger633]

1 hour ago, Drakentoth said:

Hello! I'm having troubles with the acls case III landing. I'll give a rundown to lessen the need for questions. 300 kts at 6,000 ft on course 316 calling established. Get data from mother on acls screen. at 21 dme, calling commencing. once again getting data from mother and checking in. while passing through 5,000 ft at 4,000 fpm decent rate at 250 kts, calling platform and reducing decent rate to 2,000 fpm (as the new data on the acls screen instructs me to). at 10 miles, go into landing configuration (hook, gear, flaps, on speed). at 6 miles, after calling needles, engage apt cpl to get a pitch and roll cpl, as well as atc. the acft flies itself to the deck..... but bolters every time! Is this built into the mission or i am doing something wrong? seriously frustrating. seems as if the jet is staying in ground effect due to the heavy winds and overshooting the wires?

Hi

The truth is I never use ACLS for landing always fly in manually using ICLS.

To confirm the fact as to whether the jet catches a wire is not a thing controlled by the mission editor. All that has to be done in the editor is set up the ACLS and Link 4 systems which has been done correctly on all the missions.

Probably not the case but is your jet within weight limits for the trap? Also are you running any mods at all. ( These can have very strange effects.) Are you using  Stable,  Open beta or Open beta MT?   

If the above is not the case it is worth raising  query on the  forum as a possible bug.

I will give it a try myself and see how things work out.

Badger633 

[Drakentoth]

17 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

Hi

The truth is I never use ACLS for landing always fly in manually using ICLS.

To confirm the fact as to whether the jet catches a wire is not a thing controlled by the mission editor. All that has to be done in the editor is set up the ACLS and Link 4 systems which has been done correctly on all the missions.

Probably not the case but is your jet within weight limits for the trap? Also are you running any mods at all. ( These can have very strange effects.) Are you using  Stable,  Open beta or Open beta MT?   

If the above is not the case it is worth raising  query on the  forum as a possible bug.

I will give it a try myself and see how things work out.

Badger633 

I am running open beta. MT clouds look terrible right now. Lol Don't use ACLS? I was under the impression the mission was designed to use it based upon the poor weather conditions.  As far as acft weight is concerned, I have been dumping fuel on the descent from 30k ft msl when told to rtb to Truman. I'm aware that 5 aim120's and a couple aim9's aren't light, so I'm at roughly 3k lbs fuel at commenensing. Also, no mods installed. I've used another mission with pretty much no weather and it seems to work ok. Not saying there's an issue with your mission at all, just wondering if it's the high winds causing the issue. Thank you for taking a look, I do appreciate it!

[Badger633]

1 hour ago, Drakentoth said:

I am running open beta. MT clouds look terrible right now. Lol Don't use ACLS? I was under the impression the mission was designed to use it based upon the poor weather conditions.  As far as acft weight is concerned, I have been dumping fuel on the descent from 30k ft msl when told to rtb to Truman. I'm aware that 5 aim120's and a couple aim9's aren't light, so I'm at roughly 3k lbs fuel at commenensing. Also, no mods installed. I've used another mission with pretty much no weather and it seems to work ok. Not saying there's an issue with your mission at all, just wondering if it's the high winds causing the issue. Thank you for taking a look, I do appreciate it!

 

1 hour ago, Drakentoth said:

I am running open beta. MT clouds look terrible right now. Lol Don't use ACLS? I was under the impression the mission was designed to use it based upon the poor weather conditions.  As far as acft weight is concerned, I have been dumping fuel on the descent from 30k ft msl when told to rtb to Truman. I'm aware that 5 aim120's and a couple aim9's aren't light, so I'm at roughly 3k lbs fuel at commenensing. Also, no mods installed. I've used another mission with pretty much no weather and it seems to work ok. Not saying there's an issue with your mission at all, just wondering if it's the high winds causing the issue. Thank you for taking a look, I do appreciate it!

No problem happy to help. No not designed specifically for ACLS, manual is a challenge and character building   You might be right about the winds I don't know for sure. It could be a bug. As I say I will give it a go myself and see how I get on. Still worth putting out there on the forum though as it may be a bug.

[Dos]

Hello,

I think it is the crosswind that throws off the ACLS. Wouldn't a ship realistically turn course to give the pilot best winds for landing especially in case 3?

Enjoying the game so far but using the techonology to land is fun too.

Cheers

Dos 

[zildac]

I think the ACLS bolter issue is more related to the general burble effect that is currently somewhat unrealistic. Few posts mentioning it, and I've had it happen to me a number of times.

[Badger633]

3 hours ago, Dos said:

Hello,

I think it is the crosswind that throws off the ACLS. Wouldn't a ship realistically turn course to give the pilot best winds for landing especially in case 3?

Enjoying the game so far but using the techonology to land is fun too.

Cheers

Dos 

Hi

The carrier has turned course to help with the crosswinds. The carrier is moving forward at 10 kts at a bearing of 329 degrees. The runway being on a diagonal to the carrier course is at 318 degrees. The wind  of 35kts is blowing in the direction of 138. So exactly down the line of the runway. Trouble is you are always going to get a slight crosswind component caused by the movement of the carrier along its course which is different from the runway. Truth is it s just one hell of a night! 

[paulw10]

Took me five attempts, but I managed an ACLS landing. Landing was very hard and broke the right-hand undercarriage. Managed to scrape the jet over to a parking spot. Good enough for me, haha.

[Badger633]

@paulw10 you know what they say about landings you can walk away from.

Edited May 30 by Badger633