sidekick65 Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 Is there a way to create an offset point to a target once it is designated using the radar or the T-POD? I know how to create an offset point to a target that is in the steering point list, but have not figured out how to create an offset point to a dynamically created target point. Thanks
Solution LazyBoot Posted July 21, 2023 Solution Posted July 21, 2023 Have you tried using a mark point instead of a target designation?
Hamster0 Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 14 hours ago, LazyBoot said: Have you tried using a mark point instead of a target designation? I tried but you can only make offset for Steerpoints and Target points, not Markpoints. I was wondering same thing as OP (i geuss I have been spoiled using the AV8B)
sidekick65 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Posted July 22, 2023 For the record. I want to do this for a particular reason - it has to do with planning a pop-up attack. I can do this sitting on the ground with a pre-planned target, but not while in the air with a target of opportunity. If it isn't implemented yet, that's fine. I just wondered if I was missing something.
Rainmaker Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 Offsets are related to nav/target points, not designations. Points have to not be the active steer point in order to be edited. 1
sidekick65 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Posted July 23, 2023 In other words the answer is NO. Thanks for the clarification. I should note that, despite your assertion to the contrary, this is actually not obvious since offsets ARE actually ONLY associated with target points. Since target points maybe be created from either sequence points or by designation, it does not LOGICALLY follow that they cannot be added to target points that are identified by designation. AT any rate, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. 1
Rainmaker Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 5 hours ago, sidekick65 said: In other words the answer is NO. Thanks for the clarification. I should note that, despite your assertion to the contrary, this is actually not obvious since offsets ARE actually ONLY associated with target points. Since target points maybe be created from either sequence points or by designation, it does not LOGICALLY follow that they cannot be added to target points that are identified by designation. AT any rate, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Target points can be updated with designation, as will any offsets associated with it. Other points will not be. Designations, by themselves, should not be seen as any type of ‘point’ in the system.
Avio Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 Was trying to do exactly like what the OP had done, and I confirm that Offset CANNOT be created for target designation that IS NOT pre-planned. It should have been possible for logical reason, but not sure if the real jet is able to. However, I find I can still fly a "manual offset" by knowing the direction of approach in advance, fly a distance away, then turn back towards the target using the Heading Command bug on top of HUD scale as guide till I line up in the direction needed, then do the pop-up. Needs good SA though.
Galinette Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 16 hours ago, Avio said: Was trying to do exactly like what the OP had done, and I confirm that Offset CANNOT be created for target designation that IS NOT pre-planned. It should have been possible for logical reason, but not sure if the real jet is able to. However, I find I can still fly a "manual offset" by knowing the direction of approach in advance, fly a distance away, then turn back towards the target using the Heading Command bug on top of HUD scale as guide till I line up in the direction needed, then do the pop-up. Needs good SA though. That's not 100% correct. You absolutely can create target points and add offsets to them in flight. What you cannot do, is adding an offset to a TOO designation (Target Of Opportunity, what you get if designating with no steerpoint selected) But, offsets are not meant to be used as initial points for ingress. You use initial steer points for this. Offsets are intended to help designating the objective, when it's not well visible on radar patches, but an recognizable landmark nearby is easy to spot. Set the target point on the target, the offset on the landmark (building, runway end, etc...). Select and designate the offset point, and you will be guided for release on the target point.
Avio Posted August 16, 2023 Posted August 16, 2023 What I did was I created a Mark Point (which is a form of steerpoint), but this particular type of steerpoint cannot be used to make an Aim Point, unlike a normal steerpoint. And designating on it just merely created a target of opportunity, which does not allow for creating an Offset Point. For me, my intention was to use an Aim or Offset Point as a final lead-in to the actual target, especially in low visibility or at night.
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