Logitech 3D Pro: No FF & Multicore-use with XP

[Sebastian]

Hello together,

 

I am new here, my name is Sebastian, almost 30 years old, living in Germany.

 

Currently, I have two problems:

 

1.

My Logitech 3d PRO shows no FF-effects, although the digits show 100 on the control-panel. The logitech profiler is running.

 

2.

Every new mission I have to activate the second CPU of my AMD X2 64 6000+. I use XP, not Vista. From reading through the forum I found some hints concerning multi-core use with Vista, but what about XP?

 

Actually, I cannot see much difference between one and two CPUs. Frames are not the best, but it is flyable. Microsoft FS runs much better...

 

My graphic card is a 8800 GTS with 765 mb.

[glottis]

Every new mission I have to activate the second CPU of my AMD X2 64 6000+

 

There is a utility to automate setting the affinity, but it's only worth using in Vista because of this:

 

Actually, I cannot see much difference between one and two CPUs. Frames are not the best, but it is flyable. Microsoft FS runs much better...

 

Yep, in XP it makes little or no difference. Distributing load across multiple cores (the 'affinity trick' as it's often referred to here) is only useful in Vista. Even in vista, it's no substitute for a proper multi-core aware engine, which is something ED are looking into I believe.

 

So unfortunately your options for making the most of your multiple cores are:

1. Get vista.

2. Wait for new engine (could be next year or later).

3. Overclock so at least the core that _is_ used is going as fast as possible.

[Sebastian]

So unfortunately your options for making the most of your multiple cores are:

1. Get vista.

 

Oh, haha! :lol: No, not for the best game on earth. :megalol:

2. Wait for new engine (could be next year or later).

3. Overclock so at least the core that _is_ used is going as fast as possible.

 

Thanks for you detailed descriptions.

[glottis]

Oh, haha! :lol: No, not for the best game on earth. :megalol:

 

If games is the only thing you use your computer for, Vista really isn't bad at all, in my opinion. I tend to work using XP, mac or linux. Vista is fine for gaming, after SP2 anyway, so long as you fiddle with it a bit to stop all the background crap.

 

Thanks for you detailed descriptions.

 

Sorry about that - I wasn't trying to be facetious; there just aren't many options at the moment if you want to stick with XP.

[EtherealN]

Oh, haha! :lol: No, not for the best game on earth. :megalol:

 

Not the tired old old anti-Vista rant again. This here is a UNIX nerd speaking to you, and I haven't touched XP since Vista got out. There were some teething issues, but XP had those as well. The only real drawback at this time is that it's a bit of a memory hog, but if you spend €10 extra for the 64-bit version you can knock yourself out with 64GB of it if you have a nice mobo or run it on a Mac-Pro. :P

 

On it's pro side though, it's actually got acceptable security in a Windows operating system! No ring0 bullshit unless you explicitly authorize it, no mega-wide open ports, a software firewall that actually works (though it's no replacement for a real one, mind) and to top it all off for games: it knows how to use multicore chips properly!

 

That last is why the "trick" works only in Vista and not in XP.

 

Thanks for you detailed descriptions.

 

You expect more details? We don't know when the multi-core engine will show up, and ED probably don't either because it's a massive job to re-do an engine for something like that.

 

And if you want more details on how to overclock from some guy that doesn't even know which mobo chipset you use yet... I would have to say something rude. :P

 

It might be as simple as upping the CPU multiplier in the BIOS if you have a good BIOS and a top-line CPU. (Like one of the Extreme edition Intel chips or Black/whatever AMD chips. Most CPU's today are locked from increasing the multiplier however.) It might require excessive work fiddling with volts on both your FSB and processor. And it might be completely impossible with the BIOS. All depends on what you have.

 

(In my case with an E8500 I had to up the Front Side Bus, which I believe does not exist on recent AMD chips but is instead replaced by HyperTransport or whatever it was called, since the E8500 is locked upwards on the multiplier. 1333Mhz to 1700MHz on the FSB and I've launched my 3.16GHz chip to 4GHz without overvolting. Real easy. However, my mainboard chipset is made specifically with overclocking in mind. Most big vendors like Dell and HP will save nice money on giving you mainstream motherboards...)

[Feuerfalke]

There was a nice report on the ChaosComputer-Club meeting in Berlin last year. They made a competition with their best teams of hackers and tried to intrude into modern OSes (no 3rd party firewalls loaded, no additional security packages). The result:

 

MacOX fell after less than 10 minutes, UNIX lasted for about 20 minutes.

 

Vista only got hacked well after 1 hour and only by finding a leak in the installed Apple QuickTime-Player. :music_whistling:

 

 

You can have your own opinion about Vista, of course, but I'd welcome if people who bash Vista actually tried it themselves, without brainlessly repeating other peoples opinions. Making up your own mind is an important advantage of intelligent and adult people.

 

If you still find it bad, I recommend stating arguments, instead of just stating your opinion. Makes your statements much more credible.

 

BTW, which FS-version do you mean?

[Acedy]

Please stay on topic!

 

Frames are not the best, but it is flyable.

 

Take a look at this. Especially the water tweak helps alot.