Crash after pressing fly

November 6, 2023

Hi ED,

I think all the mods are gone. Did a fresh install of GPE and audio drives. WIN up to date. Did a full (slow) repair and clean using the excellent Skatezilla app.

Actually SRS is still installed, but never had an issue with it.

Hope you can help.

'52

dcs.log dcs.log-20231106-070914.zip

Flappie · November 6, 2023

Hi, you seem to have an issue with your VR system/software ("XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE"):

2023-11-06 07:07:01.074 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR failure XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
    Origin: xr
    Source: Projects\Visualizer\Source\OpenXR\openxr_program.cpp:467
2023-11-06 07:07:01.160 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR exception: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
    Origin: xr
    Source: Projects\Visualizer\Source\OpenXR\openxr_program.cpp:467
2023-11-06 07:07:01.277 INFO    VISUALIZER (Main): LAUNCH IN VR ed_FakeVR: ed_FakeVR
2023-11-06 07:07:01.279 INFO    VISUALIZER (Main): render thread initialization...
2023-11-06 07:07:01.285 INFO    GRAPHICSVISTA (18612): renderer: 'dx11backend.dll'
  ...
2023-11-06 07:09:14.285 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2023-11-06 07:09:14.289 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20231106-070914 --------------
2023-11-06 07:09:14.292 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.0.47168 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-11-06 07:09:14.295 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\DCS\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\Visualizer.dll
2023-11-06 07:09:14.298 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffc166e0ee0 00:00000000
2023-11-06 07:09:14.301 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'C:\DCS\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'New User'
2023-11-06 07:09:14.303 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-11-06 07:09:14.313 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000140ee0 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x26E0
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000142507 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x3D07
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000129a9f (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x671F
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001239c0 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x640
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000011572 (edObjects): viSearch::TestAndInsert + 0x52
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001d758 (edObjects): DamageInfo::GetDamager + 0x15C8
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001d831 (edObjects): DamageInfo::GetDamager + 0x16A1
2023-11-06 07:09:14.318 WARNING LOG (18704): 15 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2023-11-06 07:09:14.318 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000b92f (edObjects): viObjectManager::GetObjects + 0x9F
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000012a5e2 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x7262
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000015308f (Visualizer): smSceneManager::regLua + 0x35FF
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000014d966 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0xF166
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000152a58 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::regLua + 0x2FC8
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008b7ed6 (DCS): SW + 0x3F73F6
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008da262 (DCS): SW + 0x419782
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000897ae4 (DCS): SW + 0x3D7004
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000899223 (DCS): SW + 0x3D8743
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000004a1900 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000027c4e8f (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x1382E8B
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cd5b6e (DCS): SW + 0x81508E
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14

Most people having issues starting DCS in VR solve their problem by using these parameters (and you're missing the second one):

--force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR

Edited November 6, 2023 by Flappie

November 6, 2023

1 hour ago, Flappie said:

Hi, you seem to have an issue with your VR system/software ("XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE"):

2023-11-06 07:07:01.074 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR failure XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
    Origin: xr
    Source: Projects\Visualizer\Source\OpenXR\openxr_program.cpp:467
2023-11-06 07:07:01.160 ERROR   VISUALIZER (Main): OpenXR exception: XrResult failure [XR_ERROR_FORM_FACTOR_UNAVAILABLE]
    Origin: xr
    Source: Projects\Visualizer\Source\OpenXR\openxr_program.cpp:467
2023-11-06 07:07:01.277 INFO    VISUALIZER (Main): LAUNCH IN VR ed_FakeVR: ed_FakeVR
2023-11-06 07:07:01.279 INFO    VISUALIZER (Main): render thread initialization...
2023-11-06 07:07:01.285 INFO    GRAPHICSVISTA (18612): renderer: 'dx11backend.dll'
  ...
2023-11-06 07:09:14.285 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2023-11-06 07:09:14.289 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20231106-070914 --------------
2023-11-06 07:09:14.292 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.0.47168 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
2023-11-06 07:09:14.295 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\DCS\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\Visualizer.dll
2023-11-06 07:09:14.298 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffc166e0ee0 00:00000000
2023-11-06 07:09:14.301 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'C:\DCS\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'New User'
2023-11-06 07:09:14.303 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1
2023-11-06 07:09:14.313 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000140ee0 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x26E0
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000142507 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0x3D07
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000129a9f (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x671F
2023-11-06 07:09:14.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001239c0 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x640
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000011572 (edObjects): viSearch::TestAndInsert + 0x52
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001d758 (edObjects): DamageInfo::GetDamager + 0x15C8
2023-11-06 07:09:14.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001d831 (edObjects): DamageInfo::GetDamager + 0x16A1
2023-11-06 07:09:14.318 WARNING LOG (18704): 15 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2023-11-06 07:09:14.318 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000b92f (edObjects): viObjectManager::GetObjects + 0x9F
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000012a5e2 (Visualizer): smCamera_Implement::getClipRegion + 0x7262
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000015308f (Visualizer): smSceneManager::regLua + 0x35FF
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000014d966 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::DestroySceneManager + 0xF166
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000152a58 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::regLua + 0x2FC8
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008b7ed6 (DCS): SW + 0x3F73F6
2023-11-06 07:09:14.319 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008da262 (DCS): SW + 0x419782
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000897ae4 (DCS): SW + 0x3D7004
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000899223 (DCS): SW + 0x3D8743
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000004a1900 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000027c4e8f (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x1382E8B
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cd5b6e (DCS): SW + 0x81508E
2023-11-06 07:09:14.320 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14

Most people having issues starting DCS in VR solve their problem by using these parameters (and you're missing the second one):

--force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR

Hi Flappie,

thanks for that. I used to have the 2nd one in for ages, until someone said you no longer need it as OpenXR was somehow fully implemented into DCS, so it was pointless now (I wouldn't know either way). I will try putting it back in and let you know. Tried another repair, and reinstall of drivers last night, no luck. Let's hope it's this. (I had no trouble on this server until I installed a new GPU driver for my RTX3060).

Thanks again.

'52

November 6, 2023

@Flappie No luck with the --force_OpenXR I'm afraid.

Maybe I need to reinstall my G2 drivers?

Flappie · November 6, 2023

This guide made by mbbuchia after the big change is very useful:

Just now, Gunslinger52 said:

Maybe I need to reinstall my G2 drivers?

Good idea.

Just in case, you can also try this:

Flappie · November 6, 2023

Oh, and another user has just solved his problem by reinstalling .NET components:

Try this:

Edited November 6, 2023 by Flappie

November 6, 2023

Thanks Flappie- looks like tonight's schedule is now sorted

November 7, 2023

7 hours ago, Flappie said:

Oh, and another user has just solved his problem by reinstalling .NET components:

Try this:

Found this:

NFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20231106-070914 --------------
INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.0.47168 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045)
INFO EDCORE (Main): C:\DCS\DCS World OpenBeta\bin-mt\Visualizer.dll
INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffc166e0ee0 00:00000000

So do I need to try and fix this Visualizer.dll? Not sure what to do, as my DCS has been 'Repaired' 2 or 3 times now.

Thanks again for any help you can give.

'52

Edit-- I have since deleted all FXO and metashaders2 files. Then flown without issue (Single Player). But as soon as I jump on the server (with the same map (Nevada)), crash as soon as I click on Fly. A different server also crashes upon clicking Fly.

Edit-- Also tried ST (instead of MT), no difference. Also tried ST and MT without VR, no difference.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Gunslinger52

Flappie · November 7, 2023

Try resetting your NVIDIA control panel settings.

And if it doesn't work, attach the latest zip file from your Logs folder, please.

November 7, 2023

Hi Flappie,

I hit Restore here, and on the Program Settings Tab as well. Is this where you were referring to when you said Reset?

In any case, it didn't change the results I'm afraid. Here is the log zip file.

Appreciate your time as always.

'52

dcs.log-20231107-051900.zip

Flappie · November 7, 2023

I meant this button:

OK. And did you remove the registry key we mentionned in that other thread?

I've just spotted this error:

2023-11-07 05:14:14.438 WARNING LOG (8392): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2023-11-07 05:14:14.438 ERROR   Lua::Config (Main): load error C:\Users\New User\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\KNEEBOARD/AH-64D_BLK_II/001-Mission Briefing-001.lua:table overflow.
2023-11-07 05:17:51.763 ERROR   Lua::Config (Main): load error C:\Users\New User\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\KNEEBOARD/AH-64D_BLK_II/001-Mission Briefing-002.lua:table overflow.
2023-11-07 05:17:52.523 ERROR   COCKPITBASE (Main): controller "CMWS_ThreatSector" missed in class cockpit::AH64::ccKneeboardExtension_AH64

I know it doesn't seem to be relatable to your crash, but could you please rename the KNEEBOARD folder to "KNEEBOARD.bak", so it's not loaded by DCS?

November 7, 2023

Hi Flappie,

missed that button, will try it now. I replied (can't remember where now) re the key entry, asking if that was the one. Will grab it now. (and rename the Kneeboard folder).

null

So is this the entry you want gone? (I believe I posted this ages ago when I first saw it, and someone else replied no- this one is okay)

Edited November 7, 2023 by Gunslinger52

November 7, 2023

WE'RE IN!!!!!!

Geez Flappie- you've saved me a WHOLE lot (not on fibre here, so a full download would take me days!)

What would you recommend as next steps? (As I don't know if it was the Nvidia step, or the kneeboard step that worked.) Although, the Restore Defaults button you showed would seem likely to be just doing in one step, what I did in two).

I tip my hat to you sir.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Gunslinger52

November 7, 2023

Okay so- I renamed the Kneeboard.bak folder back to normal, and we're back to it failing.

If I delete it entirely, add a new empty Kneeboard folder in, do you think things should be fine?

Flappie · November 7, 2023

Actually, it's the first time ever I see .lua files in a Kneeboard folder. Try renaming the .lua files it contains to ".lua.bak" and see if it helps.

November 7, 2023

7 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Actually, it's the first time ever I see .lua files in a Kneeboard folder. Try renaming the .lua files it contains to ".lua.bak" and see if it helps.

Will do.

Can't thank you enough. Now I'm back on for tomorrow nights mission!

Flappie · November 7, 2023

I'm glad it worked! Enjoy.

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