Cougar747 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Hello Gents, I´m a bit confused of the F-14B empty weight. All sources state something just below 42.000lbs. In the mission editor however, the F-14B shows up with an empty weight of 44.000lbs. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Toto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 42000 is for the A, the B weighs around 44000lbs i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar747 Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 Thank you. Is this specific to DCS? Even the heatblur manual states 42.000lbs for the B-Model, and 40.000lbs for the A-Model. According to all sources, the only variant with an empty weight of 44.000lbs was the D-Model. However, this very empty weight is displayed in the mission editor, so I‘m wondering if this is an DCS error ( 44.000lbs being displayed while the actual empty weight is only 42.000lbs )? Best regards, Toto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 The weights are correct in DCS as per RL docs. The weights in the heatblur manual are not correct. I don't know where they got these numbers,maybe they are for a jet without stub pylons and gun but are certainly not correct for an operational jet. i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 13 hours ago, Cougar747 said: Thank you. Is this specific to DCS? Even the heatblur manual states 42.000lbs for the B-Model, and 40.000lbs for the A-Model. According to all sources, the only variant with an empty weight of 44.000lbs was the D-Model. However, this very empty weight is displayed in the mission editor, so I‘m wondering if this is an DCS error ( 44.000lbs being displayed while the actual empty weight is only 42.000lbs )? Best regards, Toto sLYFa is correct. Just to amplify, the F-14B and F-14D each weigh close to 44,000lbs totally empty (43,600lbs and 43,735lbs, respectively) which includes trapped fuel, oil, the gun, sub pylons without rails, and the aircrew (average). The F-14B in DCS is always carrying at least the AIM-9 launchers on the multi-purpose-pylon stub. The F-14B also normally carries BOL chaff dispensers on the launchers making the total weight of the launcher somewhere in the vicinity of 122lbs (90lbs/LAU-7, 31.74lbs/BOL dispenser) per rail (244lbs total), so the total would be very close to 44,000lbs. I'm not certain where the lower numbers come from, unless they were from early block Tomcats - the 1975 NATOPS has an empty weight listed of 40,070lbs, but the F-14A in DCS is in a 1990s configuration, for which the empty weight was 42,000lbs. 1 Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurts Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) HB has also been public that the Phoenix pallet in the tunnel is included in baseline weight and drag, even when not carried. EDIT* DCS limitation AFAIK, I can't think of any non ED planes where pylons can be removed. If you know of any, let me know. Edited November 23, 2023 by Spurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 The tunnel rails' weight is NOT accounted for in the ME and rearming menu. The FM does consider their weight and drag though. So whenever you are having the tunnel rails mounted, add 500lbs for each rail to the total ME weight to get your actual aircraft weight. i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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