Nate--IRL-- Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted: ISO's are burning fine here with nero and starforce included. I suggest you look for some other source for your problem. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Lipfert Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted: ISO's are burning fine here with nero and starforce included. I suggest you look for some other source for your problem. Nate Nate, Read his post........, carefully.
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted: ISO's are burning fine here with nero and starforce included. I suggest you look for some other source for your problem. Nate Nate, Read his post........, carefully. Im not sure what i'm missing here. Sorry. I can open ISO's in nero (starforce is installed) and burn them succesfully, is this not the problem he is having? Perhaps you could explain it to me Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Stormin Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 That's just so ridiculous. Even more reason for people to want, and for the Groupz to produce, No-CD cracks for these games. The idea behind SF protection just doesn't work. It's flawed. It can never work at the system level, and shouldn't be at the system level. Correct - it should be at the user level. Don't pirate stuff :wink: Hey, that was easy . . . . . Excellent.
Stormin Posted March 12, 2005 Posted March 12, 2005 Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted: So you've tested the version and configuration of Starforce that ED is planning to use for FC?
Lipfert Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted: ISO's are burning fine here with nero and starforce included. I suggest you look for some other source for your problem. Nate Nate, Read his post........, carefully. Im not sure what i'm missing here. Sorry. I can open ISO's in nero (starforce is installed) and burn them succesfully, is this not the problem he is having? Perhaps you could explain it to me Nate Nate, Your first post states you could still burn, he also said he could burn, but he could no longer read any ISO's created on his machine. If yours is working, then something is wrong. SF is suppose to disable your ability to burn ISO's or use Virtual Drives.
Lipfert Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 That's just so ridiculous. Even more reason for people to want, and for the Groupz to produce, No-CD cracks for these games. The idea behind SF protection just doesn't work. It's flawed. It can never work at the system level, and shouldn't be at the system level. Correct - it should be at the user level. Don't pirate stuff :wink: Hey, that was easy . . . . . Excellent. Does Pirating equal lost revenue? Would the people doing the Pirating be customers anyway? I suspect that type of person, is not the character type to spend time learning a complex game like Lockon. Don't go Apetit on me it's an observation.
Lipfert Posted March 15, 2005 Posted March 15, 2005 SF support guy, what about this one? Firstly, as for reporting large downloads, it wont work, people will simply use archiving and break ISOs into smaller file fragments which will be separately downloaded and reassembled by a zip utility. Piece of cake to get around that one. Second, I did some testing concerning the reports that SF disables the Nero burning software. This claim bothered me a little because I bought a combined CD-R burner and DVD reader (LG) and Nero is the software sold with it to control the CD burning process, a process which all intelligent people regularly use for backing up their important and valued files. As I have Nero it was easy to test, put in a CD and burn a disk. Yep, it still worked ok, no problem. However, I then read that it doesn’t prevent burning per-se, it disables the ISO burning capability. So I tested this further claim, and found that indeed, Nero data burning still works but opening an ISO of one of your CDs causes Nero’s window to flicker for about 10 seconds, then the program CTDs! NOT IMPRESSED! And it can’t be removed by removing the SF driver, or by removing FC, or by removing Nero and reinstalling, nor by re-setting to a restore-point prior to the installation of the FC demo! If I want to back up my very expensive CD programs, which are legitimate, I now can’t, unless I reinstall my operating system, and don’t use any SF protected game, or else get some other ISO CD burning software that SF does not feck up. Sorry, StarForce have zero right to make service denial attacks upon my private and legally owned and used PC hardware and software. Totally unacceptable behaviour SF, and by association, ED. :twisted:
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