MotionXP 6DOF platform

[Brainfreeze]

Anyone here using this motion platform?  I would love some feedback / pros and cons

[MadMonty]

Hi, I am not using this product, but the PS-6TM-150 product from Motionsystems.

I have been using it for more than 3 years and am extremely satisfied.

You should pay attention to the following things when buying:

• Does the manufacturer offer functioning motion compensation? All movements of the platform must be compensated for in the VR headset, otherwise you will permanently change your position in the virtual cockpit.
• Does the manufacturer offer functioning software with sufficient setting options for how the forces are transferred from the platform? In the video on their website, for example, I can see that the platform rolls to the side in turns. This is wrong, as rolling to the side simulates lateral forces that hardly ever occur in flight (otherwise every Airbus would spill coffee in turns). This can be configured if the user wishes, but the important thing is that you can change it.

Motionsystems offers both points perfectly (among other advantages), but also has its price.

Edited January 23, 2024 by MadMonty

[Brainfreeze]

Indeed.  They use Flypt Mover and Open Xr MC for the VR compensation.  They are cheaper, a bit more DIY but also have bigger motion ranges than motionsystems and the various tests / videos I have seen show a very stable, smooth and quiet base.

Edited January 23, 2024 by Brainfreeze

[MadMonty]

I would be careful of bigger motion ranges. I just needs a longer time to get there, so sometimes the immersion can be affected by to long travelling distances. You want it fast and sharp, espcescially when flying a jet. Take a look at my carrier launch (link in signature) and compare it to their movements on their website. My first impression was, that they need more time to reach the final position... But still it looks like a promising product!

[Brainfreeze]

I see your point but do not think it is valid technically.  With similar roll rate and acceleration a platform with more travel range will just be able to have an extended range of sensations.  if you can pitch 40deg then you can feel a stronger G force on acceleration for example than if the platform can only roll 20deg.   The motionsystems rolls at about 50deg/s I believe.  The MotionXp can roll at 150deg/sec so anything rendered by the motionsystems should be rendered exactly the same on the MotionXP. And speed and travel are totally customisable anyway through the software. The fact it can travel more does not mean it will travel more to render the same sensation. In fact it will not.   It will only if it needs to in order to render the right sensation and if the platform has only a shorter range then it will just stop before and not render as much as one with a longer travel range. 

[MadMonty]

Sounds reasonable! Let us know when you bought it and how everything works…

[void68]

Any updates? I plan to buy the Prime the coming months.

[Brainfreeze]

I bought the prime but have not built it yet

The main things is that the software / hardware connection to the pc/simulation setup is very diy/geeky. It is not a plug and play system

But the platform is top notch

[dureiken]

Hi

 

I didn't even know there was a post here about my platform

 

glad to see people like it. Just have to tell that flyptmover is not really complicated and I made a "Ptmover for dummies" tutorial video for my customers.

 

I find it's almost plug and play, you just have to open a file depending on the game/vehicule you use. I hope in a next future it will be even easier!

 

Kindly

 

[JG7_X-Man]

@MadMonty
Dude! Thanks for sharing and what an amazing rig! After last night's crash, my wife has grounded me and it has also got me thinking about how much I not only have to focus on my skills but that of others in the air around me.

Question: What all did you have to get from Motion Platform to actually run the PS-6TM-150? Is there a power specification for the unit? Is there anything thing you would have done differently in retrospect?

[MadMonty]

13 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

@MadMonty
Dude! Thanks for sharing and what an amazing rig! After last night's crash, my wife has grounded me and it has also got me thinking about how much I not only have to focus on my skills but that of others in the air around me.

Question: What all did you have to get from Motion Platform to actually run the PS-6TM-150? Is there a power specification for the unit? Is there anything thing you would have done differently in retrospect?

Thank you for your message.

 

The platform will be delivered to your home, along with the Power Cabinet, and all you have to do is unpack it, wire it up (simple and well explained) and connect it to the power and your PC.

 

The power connection is a high-voltage connection, so you would have to take care of that. You'll need a few strong friends or a moving company to help you, as the platform weighs a lot. However, the same applies to pianos...

 

The software for the PC is included with the product, it's all plug & play, so it's really super easy to set up and get started. The customers are personally looked after on Discord by the COO (Pawel). Pawel is virtually online 24/7 and I have never seen such fast, good and personal support. Whenever there are questions or problems, Pawel and his team solve them immediately.

 

I built the entire cockpit on the base plate of the platform myself. If you haven't seen it yet, I have an updated video of my cockpit including the belt tensioner: 

 

 

You can use conventional cockpit manufacturers such as https://www.monster.tech/, or you can build it yourself. I chose Monstertech at the time, configured my cockpit and indicated to Motionsystems where I wanted additional holes in the base plate of the platform – they were happy to do that for me as a service.

 

I've had the platform for 4 years now, never had a problem and don't regret it for a day.

 

What would I do differently? Probably choose the more advanced platform https://motionsystems.eu/product/motion-platforms/ps-6tl-350/ which, thanks to linear technology, is arguably even better than my current one with servo motors.

 

Of course, I had the advantage that Motionsystems is only 8 hours away from me, so I drove by before making such a big investment and had everything shown to me. Maybe you have a chance to travel to Poland (always worth a trip) or you can contact Motionsystems and they will give you the names of customers in the US who will show you such a platform (privately). I have also had Motion Systems customers at my place, the small communities support each other very well here. If you want me to link you to a contact person, just let me know and I'll send you a PM.

 

[dureiken]

Come here and test my MotionXP Platform

[MadMonty]

4 hours ago, dureiken said:

Come here and test my MotionXP Platform

Does it have motion compensation?

Edited February 1 by MadMonty

[dureiken]

yes of course

 

I could not use it without Motion Compensation

 

I made a quick tutorial here

 

[MadMonty]

Great video!

 

But 17 minutes to explain how VR compensation has to bet set up while with motionsystems it‘s included in the software. Just plug and play. But of course it costs a lot more…

Edited February 1 by MadMonty

[dureiken]

8 hours ago, MadMonty said:

Great video!

 

But 17 minutes to explain how VR compensation has to bet set up while with motionsystems it‘s included in the software. Just plug and play. But of course it costs a lot more…

It's for people to understand. If you have my rig, you just install the software, download the INI file and that's all