advent_m Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 This thing looks quite cool, and I easily think of several ways of integrating it with DCS. It can be thought of as a "Cheap & Light Touchbuddy". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PoleCat Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) This thing looks quite cool, and I easily think of several ways of integrating it with DCS. This is very true. I have one that was given to me by a friend.:) It can be thought of as a "Cheap & Light Touchbuddy". Touchbuddy is better on so many levels. The cost of the MFP at 200 is really close to the cost of a standalone 8" touch screen or a 17" touch screen overlay. With TB your going to get multiple pages of labeled controls per sim profile. Even a small 8" touchscreen will offer you far more real estate for controls then you can imagine (multiple pages). Again all labeled and you can have state indication (on or off)as well. Easy change over to another sim. The MFP is functional and very cool but I think it is not in the same class as Touchbuddy, not even close. Out Edited April 10, 2009 by PoleCat http://www.104thphoenix.com/
Kwill Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 I have one, I use it to control the weapon and targeting systems, the ABRIS, the lights, the autopilots, master arm, jettison weapons, eject, and stuff like that. It definitely helps so you don't have to press Alt+Shift+WinK+O+P in the middle of flight to turn on a light ahahahahaha.
advent_m Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 I wasn't aware that there are "overlay touch panels". This is quite cool! Imagine spending lots of money on a 3-screen array, where all screens are touch-sensitive. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PoleCat Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Right now I am using Viewsonic 28" LCD center with 2 x 22" Samsung LCDs left and right. Black Shark resolution is 5040x1050 with SoftTH. Plus a 17" LCD with touchscreen overlay, HOTAS Cougar NXT, TIR4, Simped Vario Pro rudders with F-16 toe brake add on, IVIBE Tactile Feedback System 2.0 and VAC (voice activated commands) for AI comms. Immersion everywhere! Running all on this system: Asus P5Q-PRO Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 3.33Ghz (OC 4.02GHz) 4GB (2X2GB) Mushkin DDR2-1066 memory EVGA Nvidia GTX-260 (core 216) EVGA 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E CM Stacker ATX / BTX Full Tower Case CORSAIR HX-1000 80+ certified PSU Ultra Chilltek TEC Cooler 2x 320GB Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer (Raid 0)(WinXP_Pro Sp3) 2x 320GB Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer (Raid 0) (Vistax86 SP1) 2x 1Tb Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/32MB Buffer (XP/Vista BackUp images) Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Creative Inspire 7.1 Speaker System Lite-On SHM 165H6S DVD-RW OS:Dual boot: WinXP_Pro Sp3 & Vista 32 Ultimate Sp1 DirectX 9.0c Thrustmaster Cougar (Uber2 NXT Mod) Simped vario Pro Rudders w/F-16 Toe brake addon. Tactile Feedback System 2.0 17" Touchscreen & Touchbuddy Software TrackIR4 Pro Logitech G-15 Gamers Keyboard Logitech G-9 Laser Mouse Logitech G-25 FF Racing Wheel Out Edited April 10, 2009 by PoleCat http://www.104thphoenix.com/
GregP Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 I wasn't aware that there are "overlay touch panels". This is quite cool! Yes, and they're easier to get working than you might think. Last month I bought a cheap 17" HP LCD from Tigerdirect ($90 US after rebate) and a 17-inch touchscreen overlay off of eBay ($90), so for less than the price of the CH MFP, I had a bigger and more versatile touchscreen. Installation couldn't be easier: pop the front bezel off the LCD, slide the overlay in there, put bezel back on, connect USB cable up, run the included calibration program, and you're good to go with touch-buddy. Here's a picture of my current setup; not quite as cool as Polecat's :) but still nice: 17-inch touchscreen using DickDastardly's excellent touch-buddy profile for ABRIS/Shkval, 37-inch center LCD, 22-inch LCD monitoring my computer to make sure it doesn't melt down while I'm flying. :) I found that pushing the ABRIS/Shkval to the right LCD [rather than on left touchscreen] didn't add much to the experience and dropped framerate too much.
EtherealN Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 GregP, I love the... um... "table"... for the right screen. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
advent_m Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 Right now I am using Viewsonic 28" LCD center with 2 x 22" Samsung LCDs left and right. Black Shark resolution is 5040x1050 with SoftTH. Plus a 17" LCD with touchscreen overlay, HOTAS Cougar NXT, TIR4, Simped Vario Pro rudders with F-16 toe brake add on, IVIBE Tactile Feedback System 2.0 and VAC (voice activated commands) for AI comms. Immersion everywhere! Running all on this system: Asus P5Q-PRO Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 3.33Ghz (OC 4.02GHz) 4GB (2X2GB) Mushkin DDR2-1066 memory EVGA Nvidia GTX-260 (core 216) EVGA 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E CM Stacker ATX / BTX Full Tower Case CORSAIR HX-1000 80+ certified PSU Ultra Chilltek TEC Cooler 2x 320GB Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer (Raid 0)(WinXP_Pro Sp3) 2x 320GB Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer (Raid 0) (Vistax86 SP1) 2x 1Tb Seagate SATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/32MB Buffer (XP/Vista BackUp images) Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Creative Inspire 7.1 Speaker System Lite-On SHM 165H6S DVD-RW OS:Dual boot: WinXP_Pro Sp3 & Vista 32 Ultimate Sp1 DirectX 9.0c Thrustmaster Cougar (Uber2 NXT Mod) Simped vario Pro Rudders w/F-16 Toe brake addon. Tactile Feedback System 2.0 17" Touchscreen & Touchbuddy Software TrackIR4 Pro Logitech G-15 Gamers Keyboard Logitech G-9 Laser Mouse Logitech G-25 FF Racing Wheel Out This is one sick setup... Are you using TH2GO or SoftTH? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
advent_m Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 Yes, and they're easier to get working than you might think. Last month I bought a cheap 17" HP LCD from Tigerdirect ($90 US after rebate) and a 17-inch touchscreen overlay off of eBay ($90), so for less than the price of the CH MFP, I had a bigger and more versatile touchscreen. Installation couldn't be easier: pop the front bezel off the LCD, slide the overlay in there, put bezel back on, connect USB cable up, run the included calibration program, and you're good to go with touch-buddy. Here's a picture of my current setup; not quite as cool as Polecat's :) but still nice: 17-inch touchscreen using DickDastardly's excellent touch-buddy profile for ABRIS/Shkval, 37-inch center LCD, 22-inch LCD monitoring my computer to make sure it doesn't melt down while I'm flying. :) I found that pushing the ABRIS/Shkval to the right LCD [rather than on left touchscreen] didn't add much to the experience and dropped framerate too much. At what resolution does the 17" operate? 1024*768? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
531-Ghost Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 This thing looks quite cool, and I easily think of several ways of integrating it with DCS. It can be thought of as a "Cheap & Light Touchbuddy". They are quite cool. I have two. Here's an exapmle of how I've put them to use in DCS BS. :joystick:
GregP Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 GregP, I love the... um... "table"... for the right screen. :D Heh ... yeah ... well after splurging on the critical parts of the setup, some of the infrastructure has to be low-budget. :)
GregP Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 At what resolution does the 17" operate? 1024*768? Native is 1280x1024, but in order to have bigger buttons in DD's touchbuddy profile, I lower it to 1024x768.
PoleCat Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 This is one sick setup... Are you using TH2GO or SoftTH? SoftTH for me. And jeeze don't let 531 "Franken potato head" Ghost start pimping the CH stuff here.;). Damn him and his custom designed suncom split throttle deally too......One of a kind Unlike the long running debate between us about the two top HOTAS systems whos names "shall not be mentioned" here, maybe Ghost and I can agree that it is clear that the touchbuddy software and TS technology trumped the Ergo or MFP in terms of ease of use and value for the dollar.:D Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
531-Ghost Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Well I'll say this about that: MFP allows the gamer to program individual keys to emulate any combination of the following: • Keystrokes • Joystick buttons • Mouse buttons • Joystick axis • Mouse axis Each wireless, programmable key is re-usable, inexhaustible and can be removed and re-positioned anywhere on the MFP tray enabling a completely new customizable layout for each of your gaming needs. Not to mention, up to four modes (software), a green hardware mode as well as a red hardware mode. I'll let you do the math ;) As I don't have or use a touch screen/TouchBuddy I don't know if it is as capable. So I'll let you compare the two. But, trump the Ergo, it did. And what's wrong with a split throttle? :D :joystick:
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