new pc,new dvd BS?

[cadete2000]

I have a couple of questions regarding BS.I own 2 pc, can install BS dvd in both of them or only in 1 pc?If i get a new pc,can install the BS copy that I have now? thanks for the help.

[EtherealN]

I am fairly sure you can do that, yes. Each install will cost an activation unless you deactivate first (check manual for information on the deactivation-reactivation procedure).

 

I personally use the downloaded version, but I am fairly sure all versions except the Russian DVD uses the same system, and I have it installed on two computers with no issues.

 

Which disc version do you have? Makes it easier for people with disc versions to give you a really definite answer.

[Acedy]

This is an excerpt from the license:

 

3. LICENCE CONDITIONS

 

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this Licence or as permitted by any local law, you undertake to use the Program for your own personal use, and you shall not:

 

(a) use the Program, or permit use of the Program, on more than one computer, com

puter terminal, or workstation at the same time;

...

 

I don't know if "using" includes installing, but it definitely forbids that you have Black Shark running on two PCs at the same time, so if you want to play it with a friend via LAN and you have only one copy, then this is a no-go.

[EtherealN]

That's actually a good point.

 

In my own case it's mostly a legacy install - I had it on one computer, built a new one, and just never uninstalled.

 

Another question though would be - it would technically be a violation to run a server on one computer and using that (over LAN) to run continous testing of a mission you are working on? It wouldn't really be multiplayer, just the ability of faster prototyping that it gives. But then it would technically be running twice and be a violation of the agreement?

 

I need to re-read that thing. >.<

 

EDIT:

From the license in the Quick Start guide as it comes with the installation of my download version:

 

(1. Limited Use Licence)

"You may not [...] install it or use it on more than one computer at a time, except if expressly authorised otherwise in the Documentation."

 

So IMO, section one does state it in a more clear fashion than section three. I have not found an express authorisation for a use such as the one I described above elsewhere in the license, so my only possible conclusion is that I have agreed not to do that. :P

Edited April 20, 2009 by EtherealN

[EtherealN]

Well, I do highly doubt that ED/TFC is going to actively chase people down for something like that. Would cost them more in effort than it helps them defend their rights.

 

When I had re-read it I went out for a smoke and thought a bit about how the license would end up being written if it were to allow for that but still protect from loopholes such as people buying it and just "allowing friend/family etc" to use it. (As compared to when I, for example, allowed a visiting brother to take a few test runs on my computer.) And the only simple language I could come up with to allow it that would still protect them from those loopholes ended up being language where it would be a violation to let someone else use it on your computer - you know the classic "omg that looks fun, may I try?"

 

OR it would end up being so complex a set of clauses that it would be fantastically difficult to really know what the hell it really means.

 

So in the end, it's about as fair as can be, imo.

[Yskonyn]

Another question though would be - it would technically be a violation to run a server on one computer and using that (over LAN) to run continous testing of a mission you are working on? It wouldn't really be multiplayer, just the ability of faster prototyping that it gives. But then it would technically be running twice and be a violation of the agreement?

 

 

Shhh! As long as you don't tell, we won't either!

[EtherealN]

Too late for me. :P

[cadete2000]

I have my ps`s just for personal use,but looking ahead at the future of technology, say in 2 years time we need top of the art pc to play another simulation game from another company,and we would like to have all of ours games in this new pc,so what do we do?Can we have BS in the all and in the new pc?.Another situation,that have happened with many other software companies,is hipotecally that DCS or Star -force goes under,what will happen then,will we eable to install the game in a new pc or we lost everything ?

[EtherealN]

If you get a new computer, you can install it on that computer.

 

You are only allowed to install on one computer simultaneously. If you get a new computer, uninstall it from the old one and then install on the new.

 

And if StarForce and/or ED/TFC goes under, it is theoretically possible to lose the ability to reinstall the simulator. But this is very unlikely to happen, and in most of the cases where similar things has happened the developers have released "patches" that would remove the problem. (See Software Foundry's excellent and underappreciated game HardWar for an example.) No guarantee for that here, obviously, but also no signs at all that there will be such problems.

 

Anyways

 

It is technically possible to install on multiple computers at the same time. Through negligence this is true for myself - I have it on my old computer and my current gaming rig. This does not hinder the use of the game on either machine. It looks to be a technical violation to have it installed on both at the same time, but there are systems in place within the copy protection to allow you to modify or even change to a whole new computer without penalty.

 

The license only prevents you from using your one license to run the game on several machines, f.ex if you were to tell a friend that they don't have to buy it and give them an install from your license instead. That is what the system protects against. (And that is entirely fair, and works the same way as when with a normal disc check the game would check if you have the disc - on older games you would be able to install as many times as you want, but if you don't have the disc you can't play. Same thing here, but different mechanism.)

[Grimes]

3. LICENCE CONDITIONS

 

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this Licence or as permitted by any local law, you undertake to use the Program for your own personal use, and you shall not:

 

(a) use the Program, or permit use of the Program, on more than one computer, com

puter terminal, or workstation at the same time;

...

 

I interpret this as. "The same product liscense may not be running on more than one computer at the same time" Meaning you can have the game install on as many home systems as you want, however it is against the conditions if the program is running on two or more systems at once.