New to VR... trying to setup Quest 3 for DCS

[Mike_Toth]

Hello all,

I finally went the VR route and purchased a Meta Quest 3.  I have installed Open XR and connected the headset

to my PC via a cable and tested the connection.. all good....  I did create a shortcut using the multithread version

of the .exe that lives in the bin MT folder  with the --force enable commands at the end of the target line...  when I use this icon it still presents the program on my monitor vs inside the headset....  am I missing  a step somewhere along the line?

any help would be greatly appreciated...

 

tks much

 

Mike

 

[diego999]

Is your headset enabled within DCS?

 

I don't think you need the --force commands anymore. At least on my end, when you launch the MT.exe, as long as your Quest 3 is connected to the PC, it will start the game in VR mode.

 

 

[Qcumber]

1 hour ago, Mike_Toth said:

Hello all,

I finally went the VR route and purchased a Meta Quest 3.  I have installed Open XR and connected the headset

to my PC via a cable and tested the connection.. all good....  I did create a shortcut using the multithread version

of the .exe that lives in the bin MT folder  with the --force enable commands at the end of the target line...  when I use this icon it still presents the program on my monitor vs inside the headset....  am I missing  a step somewhere along the line?

any help would be greatly appreciated...

 

tks much

 

Mike

 

If you have a suitable cable then connect with this rather than airlink. You get better performance. By "open xr" do you mean open xr toolkit? If so then this is not necessary. It just helps tweak some settings Just set the meta app as the default open xr runtime in settings, run the DCS exe from the MT folder with VR enabled (as per diego999) and it should work. 

[Mike_Toth]

'Just set the meta app as the default open xr runtime in settings'

Tks for the replies...could you show me where this default option is?....  ill try running without the force commands...  and check that VR enabled setting in DCS ...i believe it is on 

 

Edited May 25, 2024 by Mike_Toth

[diego999]

1 hour ago, Mike_Toth said:

'Just set the meta app as the default open xr runtime in settings'

Tks for the replies...could you show me where this default option is?....  ill try running without the force commands...  and check that VR enabled setting in DCS ...i believe it is on 

 

 

Not at home right now but in the meta desktop app go to options - general - "set openxr as default runtime" if I remember correctly.

[Mike_Toth]

Tks much Diego, I'll try that when I get home as well... sorry for the dumb questions but I've never used a VR headset so this is brand new to me..... watched some yt videos on all these settings and tweaks but they are 6 months and older so not sure what has been improved. ... I did try with the dcs VR enabled setting on and and removed the force options , retested my cable connection but still no joy...appreciate your help... will let u know

[diego999]

Nothing to be sorry about mate. We all learned the hard way when we started our VR journey.

This is the option we were talking about.

 

 

How are you connecting your Quest to the PC? You need to activate Link connection (or Airlink in case you want to play through wifi), not just physically connect the cable bewteen the two. I ask because it happened to me at first when I had no idea what I was doing.

You see a new environment once you connect. White and empty like this:

 

 

Once in there just launch DCS through the regular desktop shortcut in your pc, if everything is right the game should start in VR mode.

[Mike_Toth]

Ty so much.. I will try those when I get homeclater today.  I'm a DCS veteran, but a VR rookie!!.  Will let u know how it goes.  I greatly appreciate the help...p s.  This is my cable

Edited May 25, 2024 by Mike_Toth

[diego999]

Meta desktop app has a built in test for your cable. Check if it passes. 

[Mike_Toth]

Yeah I did that test and it works

[kablamoman]

If you wish to go wireless and you have a newer router (Wi-Fi 6 or 6E) another option might be to forego the Oculus software entirely and use the Virtual Desktop app.

[Mike_Toth]

I finally got it working ... not sure what I did but uninstalled the Meta PC app and re-installed and re-connected the headset.  

Now I have to figure out the optimum settings I believe both in DCS and the headset to get smooth rendering... its kinda choppy and 

am seeing some screen tearing on the edges of the VR field of vision....  been watch several YT vids for settings using the Oculus Tray Tool... 

Also a question...  I set the boundary in the headset to sitting down... when I got in I still see the circle boundary in the cockpit.... is there a way to

turn that off?

 

tks much for the help

 

Mike

oh yeah these are my system specs.... new Acer gaming laptop

Device name    Acer-Predator32
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700HX   2.10 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)

System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
 

RTX 4070 8GB Nvidia card

 

 

Edited May 26, 2024 by Mike_Toth

[diego999]

Try these. Your PC is better than mine, so take these as a baseline, you should be able to use much higher settings.

 

 

[Qcumber]

On 5/26/2024 at 5:41 AM, Mike_Toth said:

I finally got it working ... not sure what I did but uninstalled the Meta PC app and re-installed and re-connected the headset.  

Now I have to figure out the optimum settings I believe both in DCS and the headset to get smooth rendering... its kinda choppy and 

am seeing some screen tearing on the edges of the VR field of vision....  been watch several YT vids for settings using the Oculus Tray Tool... 

Also a question...  I set the boundary in the headset to sitting down... when I got in I still see the circle boundary in the cockpit.... is there a way to

turn that off?

 

tks much for the help

 

Mike

oh yeah these are my system specs.... new Acer gaming laptop

Device name    Acer-Predator32
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700HX   2.10 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)

System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
 

RTX 4070 8GB Nvidia card

 

 

 

An rtx 4070 mobile is on the weaker side for a Q3. It's similar to a 4060 desktop GPU. It also only has 8gb VRAM. Your CPU however is new and quite powerful. I would advise trying Quad Views Foveated rendering in fixed mode to try and reduce your GPU load. This will enable you to maintain decent centre resolution at the cost of reduced periphery. It works well for some but not for others. I used it in fixed mode on my Pico 4 and was happy with it. It's worth a try. 

https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated

[Mike_Toth]

Thanks guys ill try both the settings  and that quad view API.... much appreciated

Edited May 27, 2024 by Mike_Toth

[Weed89]

Great post..( I have same issues quest 3 )  it seems to Sorta launce SOMETIMES.. & sometimes it dosent...am sure it is me.

So, i gather Launch #1- Meta quest link ...then plug?turn googles on?   then launch DCS ( making sure in VR mode?  )  the new dcs launcher allows decktop OR VR headset launch now...do i STILL need to go into the running game and select the "Enable vr headset" tic mark in the Launched DCS options?.

i will use the link cable ( shows it works fine )   when i have used it b4  i felt the resolution sucked...and felt pushed up too far in the seat...perhaps it is my rig ?? that has the occasional stuttering too. 

Device name    DESKTOP-i7
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz   3.60 GHz
Installed RAM    96.0 GB (63.9 GB usable)
Device ID   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Product ID    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    No pen or touch input is available for this display

 GPU - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2080 Ti WINDFORCE OC 11G Video Card, GV-N208TWF3OC-11GC
Memory Size: 11GB
Cooler: WINDFORCE 3X

  Any help or tips getting mine to run like it SHOULD  appreciated

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Weed89
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[Phantom711]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Weed89:

Launch #1- Meta quest link ...then plug?

I have my QuestPro plugged in all the time. So I would suggest to plug the headset in first and then start Link. But whatever works for you.

 

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Weed89:

do i STILL need to go into the running game and select the "Enable vr headset" tic mark in the Launched DCS options?

Of course not.

[Phantom711]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Weed89:

i felt the resolution sucked

On the PC app under Devices you can crank up the resolution, but then again, with a 2080….

Also…what do you compare the resolution to. Unless you take a Varjo Aero or Pimax Crystal or something of the like, VR will not look as sharp as on a flat screen. But the overall experience is still very nice and immersive.

 

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Weed89:

felt pushed up too far in the seat

In the controls options in DCS, under General (or UI…not sure now) there is a keybind for „VR recenter“. Suggest to assign a stick or throttle button, if you have one left over.

Edited August 19, 2024 by Phantom711