ArtOfStuttering Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 Whenever I join the F-4 WSO seat in the back of anyone, the pilot has a good chance on getting the full sync error spam in their top right messages and my controls keep 'lagging' or reverting, effectively making it impossible for me to do anything in the backseat. I've reproduced the full sync error spam by basically interacting with anything in the back seat whether it be a hot or cold plane, especially by moving the antenna stick. It does this in 4 separate people their jets on command when I'm in the back, in different servers, on different maps, and different missions (including empty ones). I can ride along just fine as long as I don't touch anything and I can still pilot for other people to sit in my back. From my point of view when interacting with the radar/antenna stick it forcibly resets it, while in the radar screen it often keeps resetting or just keeps going for a second well after I've let go of my antenna stick. I've since deleted all my mods ((A-4 or C-130) and UH-60L mod (unarmed)) other than SRS, ran a full repair, and it still does it. Both in ST and MT, although I run MT by default. DxDiag included. Will try to get video of both my side and pilot side this weekend. DxDiag.txt 3
ArtOfStuttering Posted May 31, 2024 Author Posted May 31, 2024 Cold Start WSO PoV: Cold Start Pilot PoV: 2
Super Grover Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 Thank you for your message. We've seen reports on this, but we're still unable to reproduce it on our end. In your case, some differences in the configuration of the server/client/network must be causing the errors, but we still have to identify them. Would you mind uploading both the pilot and WSO dcs.log, please? This could help us understand the problem. Krzysztof Sobczak Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
ArtOfStuttering Posted June 1, 2024 Author Posted June 1, 2024 Absolutely. Attached are both my (WSO) and Pilot logs from the Cold Start video above. I've since isolated the issue to me touching the antenna stick and interacting with any system through moving with it, whether it's the radar screen, Pave Spike pod, or Maverick slewing. As soon as I move the stick it desyncs but things like IFF interrogation doesn't. This is fully reproducible for me alone, cold start and hot start, in the WSO seat while others have no problem. Below is a recording of my PoV on a hot start flight where I showcase the errors with the radar screen, pave spike, and mav. This is on a different server than the Cold Start video I posted earlier. Also attached is both my Pilot and WSO dcs log file of this flight. Of note is that I can replicate this independently of the multiplayer pilot, I just happened to use the same pilot twice. Apparently it didn't record Discord voice on my Pilot's side but highlights are at 1:50 for hot start radar, 11:50 for the Pave Spike, and 14:20 for the Mav (which I am unable to do anything with at that point it seems like). dcs-pilot-log-HotStart.log dcs-pilot-log-Cold Start.log dcs-WSO-log-Cold Start.log dcs-F4-WSO-HotStart.log 2
Pigpen Posted June 2, 2024 Posted June 2, 2024 This is precisely the issue I am having and reported elsewhere. Have tried the same troubleshooting as the OP with same results. 1
MBot Posted June 2, 2024 Posted June 2, 2024 I only tried multiplayer WSO twice so far and on the first time we had that problem as well. The second time when it worked I had "Disable multicrew control input when joining as WSO" enabled in the special options. I don't know if that was coincidence or if there is a causality here, but might be worth to check out further. 2
ArtOfStuttering Posted June 3, 2024 Author Posted June 3, 2024 19 hours ago, MBot said: I only tried multiplayer WSO twice so far and on the first time we had that problem as well. The second time when it worked I had "Disable multicrew control input when joining as WSO" enabled in the special options. I don't know if that was coincidence or if there is a causality here, but might be worth to check out further. Tried this and it didn't help. As soon as I touch the antenna stick it causes desyncs. Of note is that as a WSO I don't have the pilot stick and/or throttle bound. Unbinding Pitch & Roll (pilot stick) in the F-4 Pilot section didn't change anything either. 20 hours ago, Pigpen said: This is precisely the issue I am having and reported elsewhere. Have tried the same troubleshooting as the OP with same results. Sorry to hear that you're having the same/similar issues! At the same time, kinda glad I'm not the only one. Seeing your other post, it seems you're also having performance issues. I'm having a solid 50+ fps no matter what (with a theoretical 200+ FPS as my GPU is a known bottleneck). My gameplay is hampered because effectively I can't use anything that interacts with the antenna stick. I can ride along and interact with everything else just fine. 1
Cobra847 Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Would appreciate re-verifying this bug on the latest patch if possible 1 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
ArtOfStuttering Posted June 5, 2024 Author Posted June 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Cobra847 said: Would appreciate re-verifying this bug on the latest patch if possible Unfortunately, it still seems to be there. I'll try to get some video of both perspectives tomorrow if desired. 1
Pigpen Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Strange. I've just tried it and the issue seems solved to us. No desync between hand controllers at all.
ArtOfStuttering Posted June 11, 2024 Author Posted June 11, 2024 Pilot dcs.log WSO desync spam antenna controller 2.9.5.55918.logWSO dcs.log desync spam antenna controller 2.9.5.55918.log Little later than promised but here you go. Different pilot this time around, different mission but same server (although this is server-agnostic). Touching the radio knobs is merely to show that it's only the antenna stick (that I know of, so far). Pilot POV: WSO Pov (touching the antenna stick is around 4:30): 2
Super Grover Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 I identified one - and hopefully the only - source of such desyncs. As a temporary workaround, please ensure that both clients (the pilot and the WSO) use the same settings for the special option "Use Radar Antenna Hand Control also for Radar Cursor Control Panel" - unchecked (default) for both; or checked for both. Also, please let me know if you keep getting the desyncs despite the same options for both clients. 2 Krzysztof Sobczak Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
ArtOfStuttering Posted June 12, 2024 Author Posted June 12, 2024 4 hours ago, Super Grover said: I identified one - and hopefully the only - source of such desyncs. As a temporary workaround, please ensure that both clients (the pilot and the WSO) use the same settings for the special option "Use Radar Antenna Hand Control also for Radar Cursor Control Panel" - unchecked (default) for both; or checked for both. Also, please let me know if you keep getting the desyncs despite the same options for both clients. This seemed to be it! I had it turned on, the others not so much. Thanks for the workaround and in the future the fix.
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