M9 always fail???

[mpcinfty]

I swear I hit the runway four times with the bomb (I even checked with Tacview) but I get Mission Failed message. Is there some kind of special condition to be called success?? Need help!

[Badger633]

Hi @mpcinfty

Unfortunately there is no secret you just have to get all the bombs in the zone. In fact the zone is bigger than the runway. Have you got a track or Tacview files of your flight can you send it to me?
Make sure you got your bombs set up correctly so they all fall over the zone. 
Make sure you can see the cross over the runway before you press the release and keep it pressed. 
Hope this helps. 
 

EDIT Also what message are you getting with the fail. 

 

Edited June 2, 2024 by Badger633

[Kurnass1977]

@Badger633. For this mission briefing call for 6 retarded Mk-82 as loadout but actually only 4 are present, intended mismatch ot what else?

[Badger633]

@Kurnass1977 It used to be 6 bombs but had to be changed for another reason in the mission. Unfortunately missed the correction in the brief so will be corrected in next update.

Edited June 12, 2024 by Badger633

[Kurnass1977]

58 minuti fa, Badger633 ha scritto:

@Kurnass1977 It used to be 6 bombs but had to be changed for another reason in the mission. Unfortunately missed the correction in the brief so will be corrected in next update.

 

Ah ok, thanks!

Spoiler

Unfortunately my third MiG landed so I failed the mission, try again this night

 

[Badger633]

1 hour ago, Kurnass1977 said:

Ah ok, thanks!

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Unfortunately my third MiG landed so I failed the mission, try again this night

 

Right, that’s unusual. Not seen that before. Let me know what happens second time.

Edited June 12, 2024 by Badger633

[Kurnass1977]

to be more correct the Fulcrum bugged out, let see in the next time what happen ( I really sucks at A/A)

[Badger633]

Yes please @Kurnass1977 let me know if it lands again. Apparently there is an attack bug that may be present at the moment. 
Thanks

[Kurnass1977]

Il 13/6/2024 at 16:20, Badger633 ha scritto:

Yes please @Kurnass1977 let me know if it lands again. Apparently there is an attack bug that may be present at the moment. 
Thanks

Just finished the mission.

I repeated the mission at least three or four times 'cause my deficiency in A/A, anyway happened another time that one of the MiGs ( the furthest aft on the right) landed home, it was in final before I was in range to shoot my AMRAAM.

In all the other try all work as expected

[Badger633]

Hey @Kurnass1977

Thanks for that. I am looking at that and will install a mechanism in the next update to deal with that one Mig.

Cheers

[sam_]

1 hour ago, Kurnass1977 said:

Just finished the mission.

I repeated the mission at least three or four times 'cause my deficiency in A/A, anyway happened another time that one of the MiGs ( the furthest aft on the right) landed home, it was in final before I was in range to shoot my AMRAAM.

In all the other try all work as expected

Two attempts for me where one of the MiGs just goes home before I can even lock him up.

[Badger633]

Hey @sam_ I think there is a DCS bug regarding attack command. Checking it out and will get it sorted for next update. 
You don’t happen to have a Tacview file do you?

[PB0_corse66]

Hi, Badger

First of all thanks a ton for all your fantastic campaigns  It's a no brainer each time you are releasing one

I'm enjoying a lot this one but I'm stuck at M9 as I have a mission fail because "you 4 bombs didn't hit the target"

Tried a few times always the same message. Tacview below.. looks like my bombs are on target.. more or less

 

https://we.tl/t-BgbFrXK33f

[Badger633]

Hi @PB0_corse66

Unfortunately will not be at my rig for a few weeks so cannot check. I have left with ED an update for this mission but this deals with the airborne AI. 
In doing this flew this mission quite a few times recently and never had this problem. Please check you are getting all four bombs in the runway zone. You will note the impact point is well left of the aircrafts centre line due to cross wind. Make sure the impact cross is in the centre line of the runway. Also what gap are you leaving between each bomb, try shortening it. 
The trigger is looking for 4 bombs in the air at once within the given zone which is bigger than the actual runway. Also  make sure you have not changed the bomb types. 
Hope this helps.

[PB0_corse66]

Hi Badger 

Thanks a lot for your answer.. 

Have you checked the tacview I've posted in my previous post?

Couple of questions : I'm supposed to attack the runway right? 

When you say that 4 bombs should be in the air. you mean simultanously? therefore I have to release them together? because as you can see on the track I've relased them quite quickly.

Thanks a ton for the help

[Badger633]

Hi @PB0_corse66

As i said away from the computer in Oz for three weeks. Will check when i get back.

How are you releasing them manually? Make sure you set them to auto release say 500 between each and make sure retard is selected. Yes all four need to be in zone in the air at once. 

Yes the runway at WP6

Hope this helps.

[PB0_corse66]

Thanks a ton will try tonight with that setup.. Manual bombing.. I release each of them separately. Will try auto release and will tell you  Thanks a ton

[Kurnass1977]

I used CCIP,drop all weapons simultaneously, 150 between each and always hit in all my try. Obviously, the bomb cross and not you will be on the runway centerline, to compensate the low alt wind.

My two cent

[PB0_corse66]

Badger?  worked like a charm  auto release did the trick  thanks for the help and support you indeed need all 4 bombs in the air at the same time

 

[Badger633]

Glad you got it sorted. Enjoy the campaign.

[Talvid]

Okay, so it's good to know I could complete the mission if I set my bomb interval to much closer than 888 feet like I did. Because here is video evidence I placed all four bombs on the runway in a crosswind!  (My fourth bomb was still on the rack when the first exploded)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdAzwdAikE

 

[Badger633]

Hey @Talvid, I believe you.

As you know it is a timing issue, the way DCS works looking for 4 bombs within zone is to look for 4 bombs in the air at one time. Have realised this does not work if the bombs are well spaced so have changed the way success is detected in this mission. Update is with ED and will be in next update.
Trouble is ED has increased time between updates which does not help us getting missions fixed for you guys. 

[Talvid]

59 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

Hey @Talvid, I believe you.

As you know it is a timing issue, the way DCS works looking for 4 bombs within zone is to look for 4 bombs in the air at one time. Have realised this does not work if the bombs are well spaced so have changed the way success is detected in this mission. Update is with ED and will be in next update.
Trouble is ED has increased time between updates which does not help us getting missions fixed for you guys. 

yeah that update frequency is a bit of a damper on improved campaigns.  And to guard your intellectual property you can't just share a google drive file can you?  It's okay, I'm sure the updates will be worth the wait.  I sped through the replay of my saved track of mission 9 and took control just before WPT5, set my ripple interval to 55 shoes and that did the trick.  I was then able to tank, and engage 3 migs, luckily I switched the difficulty down to trained so I would have a chance because I suck at air combat.  To top it off I trapped the case 3 approach on my first try.    fun missions!

[Badger633]

@Talvid Glad you got it sorted. Yeah this latest mission update definitely falls under the category of designing in more mission flexibility  to allow for the different ways different pilots approach the same mission. 

Edited September 14, 2024 by Badger633

[Shurik75]

@Badger633 I really hope that by the time I replay this campaign, ED will have already made saves inside the missions. I passed on the fifth try: in the first four I was either shot down by MiGs, or missed when dropping bombs on the runway, or when approaching the basket the tanker began to move up and down chaotically (there was a sporadic stuttering with an interval of 5-10 seconds, perhaps some trigger or script was being processed (M9.trk)), so it could not refuel. In the last fifth try I decided not to refuel and everything went well, only the wingman was landing as in Case 1 on my wing(M9(5).trk).

M9.trk

M9(5).trk