How to fly next to a different Jet??

[Ghostmaker]

A kind Gent in here sent me the video and the info shown attached but i cant speak french, does anyine know how to set up a flight in mission editor and to se a wing man as a different jet? I.e, a rafale or f15e etc? 

Many thanks

Arron

[sirrah]

10 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

A kind Gent in here sent me the video and the info shown attached but i cant speak french, does anyine know how to set up a flight in mission editor and to se a wing man as a different jet? I.e, a rafale or f15e etc? 

Many thanks

Arron

 

It's not a wingman, it's a separate flight (you can't give it orders)

 

How to achieve what you see here:

1. Open ME
2. Place your aircraft (player)
3. Place a 2nd AI aircraft close by
4. In the "waypoint action" of the AI aircraft, press "add"
5. A new window opens (see screenshot below) where you can set the AI to follow you

 

(you can just try out with the distance, elevation and interval values until it follows you where you want it to) 

 

 

[Ghostmaker]

Cheers bud ill have a play with this, just be nice to chill in flight with something other than the usual ai wingman

[Ghostmaker]

Hi mate, ok so i have dine exactly this however i find the AI jet that is to follow myself decides to taxi and take off before me not follow me then land lol? Any ideas? 

[sirrah]

Follow action for aircraft only works when airborne. On the ground they ignore all tasks until airborne. If they are airborne and the unit they need to follow (you) is still on the ground, the follow action is ignored and if no other actions or waypoints, it will land on the nearest airfield.

What you can easily do, is start airborne. The AI will take off and start following you.

It can also definitely be achieved with both aircraft starting from ground, but it'd require a few additional triggered actions (using the orbit action for the AI, a zone to detect the player being airborne, one or two flags). Actually all very basic mission editing stuff, but a bit too much for me to explain right now.

If you attach your mission here in this post, I can easily create the mission for you (I should have some time to do that this weekend)

 

Alternatively, if you don't mind that the AI aircraft is of the same type as yours; You can just use a wingman and then add to your own flight the action: "Formation"

That will open a new window, where you can set formation to "close".

That will make your wingman stick just right and aft of your right wing.

 

 

Edited June 13, 2024 by sirrah

[Ghostmaker]

4 hours ago, sirrah said:

Follow action for aircraft only works when airborne. On the ground they ignore all tasks until airborne. If they are airborne and the unit they need to follow (you) is still on the ground, the follow action is ignored and if no other actions or waypoints, it will land on the nearest airfield.

What you can easily do, is start airborne. The AI will take off and start following you.

It can also definitely be achieved with both aircraft starting from ground, but it'd require a few additional triggered actions (using the orbit action for the AI, a zone to detect the player being airborne, one or two flags). Actually all very basic mission editing stuff, but a bit too much for me to explain right now.

If you attach your mission here in this post, I can easily create the mission for you (I should have some time to do that this weekend)

 

Alternatively, if you don't mind that the AI aircraft is of the same type as yours; You can just use a wingman and then add to your own flight the action: "Formation"

That will open a new window, where you can set formation to "close".

That will make your wingman stick just right and aft of your right wing.

 

 

 

I hqvnt really made a mission yet i was just having a play to see how it works. I fly the FA18c and wated the rafale to fly close to me but had this issue, the i was going to atmpt to try a mission. Do you hqve any missions like this using a tanker? Or would you like to create one?

 

I was going to do it on caucasus map. But i have pretty much all maps apart from the newest Kola map

 

If you set the Ai plane on late activation to give yourself time to setup and get in the air before the Ai spawns will it them follow as your already in the air?

[sirrah]

16 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

If you set the Ai plane on late activation to give yourself time to setup and get in the air before the Ai spawns will it them follow as your already in the air?

As long as you're in the air before the AI, it will start following you. So yes, late activation could help.

Bare in mind AI will do anything to catch up with you as fast as possible (burn through all its fuel to do so).

 

(I don't use user made mods as I like to keep DCS "clean", but it probably will also work fine with the Rafale mod)

[Ghostmaker]

Cheers bud, il have a try. I know what you mean. I have however downloaded a few vsn mods which ive been told are safe?

[LuseKofte]

You can have him to hold for two minutes on ground to. All you need to do is getting to the airstrip first

[Ghostmaker]

If were next to each other starting from the ground but hot how do i get him to hold for 2 minutes?  When the sim starts up i want to be able to set all my bombs up and EW systems etc up before moving but he just taxis off haha

[Slippa]

I was gonna answer by saying carefully and with a grin on your face but reading through I wanna have a go too .

Cheers for the explanation Sirrah. I’ll look in again, see how to have them hold while we cold start and get a coffee and comfy/prepared for action.

[sirrah]

7 hours ago, Ghostmaker said:

If were next to each other starting from the ground but hot how do i get him to hold for 2 minutes?  When the sim starts up i want to be able to set all my bombs up and EW systems etc up before moving but he just taxis off haha

It can be achieved several ways, but it'll require a simple triggered action.

Best way, would be to use the late activation tick box for the AI aircraft (you can also set it "visible before start" so that you will see the aircraft and it won't suddenly spawn/appear out of nowhere, when activated).

You then open the "triggers" window on the left side of the screen.

Add new trigger and in the "condition" tab add a "time is more" condition and set the amount of seconds you need to startup.

In the action tab add "activate group" and select the AI aircraft.

 

[Ghostmaker]

6 minutes ago, sirrah said:

It can be achieved several ways, but it'll require a simple triggered action.

Best way, would be to use the late activation tick box for the AI aircraft (you can also set it "visible before start" so that you will see the aircraft and it won't suddenly spawn/appear out of nowhere, when activated).

You then open the "triggers" window on the left side of the screen.

Add new trigger and in the "condition" tab add a "time is more" condition and set the amount of seconds you need to startup.

In the action tab add "activate group" and select the AI aircraft.

 

Every time i tick the late activation box and say mission time which i assume is the time set in the cloud / daytime setting so say 15:00:00. When i add my Ai jet and click late activation add a time of 15:0:3:00 no jet even appears lol. 

 

Help.... haha

[sirrah]

3 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

Every time i tick the late activation box and say mission time which i assume is the time set in the cloud / daytime setting so say 15:00:00. When i add my Ai jet and click late activation add a time of 15:0:3:00 no jet even appears lol. 

 

Help.... haha

Attach your mission here and I'll try and have a look later today (please replace the Rafale by an aircraft that's not a mod. You can just change it back later)

 

[Ghostmaker]

No worries bud ill try sort it when im back. There are other aircraft like the hercules static mod on there also. Are you ok with having that on there? And massun personel kit

[sirrah]

29 minutes ago, Ghostmaker said:

No worries bud ill try sort it when im back. There are other aircraft like the hercules static mod on there also. Are you ok with having that on there? And massun personel kit

Not sure if I can open the mission without having all those mods (I'd be highly surprised if I can)

[Ghostmaker]

just created a new black Caucasus one with FA18c and linked an FA18C to it (not a wing man) see if you can get him to be on the ground and follow me, ideally i want the jet to stay as close as possible for just a chilled flight, once done ill add all the new stuff to the map Caucus Kutaisi .miz

 

 

[sirrah]

1 hour ago, Ghostmaker said:

just created a new black Caucasus one with FA18c and linked an FA18C to it (not a wing man) see if you can get him to be on the ground and follow me, ideally i want the jet to stay as close as possible for just a chilled flight, once done ill add all the new stuff to the map Caucus Kutaisi .miz

 

 

Didn't have time to test it, but this should work: Caucus Kutaisi edit.miz

 

The AI will start up once you start taxiing (enter the trigger zone). Once AI is airborne (and you are too), it will start following you. You can fiddle around with the AI follow distance to your likings. You can also change both your and the AI aircraft and it should all still work (might want to double check if the follow action on the AI is still there when you change his aircraft).

 

I also quickly added a radio F10 menu option, which you can use to tell him to stop following you (be careful when you do, as the AI wil instantly and fiercely steer for the nearest airfield). You can access the radio F10 menu by pressing \

Have fun 

 

[Ghostmaker]

Cheers bud ill have a go on this at some point tomorrow unless someone else gets to it before me haha. I need to learn all of this 

[Slippa]

So do I, and a lot more.

cheers.

[Ghostmaker]

Sorry for a late reply, i managed to quickly get on an hour or so ago to have a go before being interupted and having to get off the sim pretty much straight away.

 

So.. thank you so far, i managed to taxi the FA18 to the rnway whilst monitoring the new ai following jet on f2 key. It seems to work but as i had to quickly get off i didnt manage to gwt in the air to see what happens next so part 2 to come