gnomechild Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Hello, I see in the roadmap that the only item for the BF RWR is planned incorporation of new sounds. I wanted to make a report of the discrepancies of how the current RWR functions in DCS by comparison to how it functions in the real work (to the best of my understanding) and see if Aerges is aware of these issues, if the issues are different in the CE than in other variants (my reference is an F1ED which uses the exact same rwr), and what the plans for the future are. Thanks! Radar Bands In real life the BF RWR is only capable of detecting threats in the S (2-4 GHz), C (3.7-4.2GHz), and X (8-12GHz) bands. null In DCS, the BF is capable of detecting every radar no matter what. Here is a screenshot of the RWR displaying directional information for an 1L13 EWR which transmits at a frequency of 180-220 MHz in the VHF band. Nature of Threat Lights Aside from the sounds which are already being adressed by Aerges, the issue with these lights is related to the above situation with radar outside of the S,C, or X bands. According to the usage described in the F1ED manual, when a threat is detected there should always be at least one of these lamps illuminated. Essentially the only threats displayed should be "you are being tracked", "you are being tracked by a radar with TWS", or "you are being illuminated by CW (probably being launched at by a SAM)" Additionally, in DCS the CW light illuminates as a launch warning for air-to-air threats even when being launched on by a radar which does not guide with CWI or from aircraft that do not change radar frequency during/after launch such as the Mirage F1 itself. Locked by Mirage F1: Launched on by Mirage F1: Since the Cyrano IVM does not change PRF or guidance type during launch, there should not be any difference displayed for STT vs Launch. This is true of a number of aircraft in DCS as well. Direction Indication It is also my understanding that just like the threat lights, the directional indicators for the BF should only display direction to the strongest radiation source detected, which should correspond directly to the nature of threat lamp that is currently illuminated. In DCS, the BF displays direction to every radar that it sees, making it effectively useless in a busy environment. Especially because it's displaying search radars which it should not detect. If you made it this far, thanks for reading. If any of my information is incorrect or not applicable to the BF RWR in the CE/EE please let me know. 6 3
Tiromir Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Thanks for your time! Hope this gets the attention it deserves 3
omohat Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Thanks for raising this. Hope Aerges come back with a response
fausete Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Hi, We are aware of those and will work to solve them. Some of these (for example, the threat bands that can or can't be detected or the CW coming only from a SAM launch) require work-arounds to be able to represent them in the sim but our intention is to eventually have them modelled too eventually. All this to say that we are aware of the reported issues and will solve them but they are not quick fixes that can be implemented swiftly. 6 4
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