correct as is due to agm-88 attack profile With the new ability for SAM to evade ARM the SA-15 is now an easy target for HARMS

[rob10]

8 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

I am just catching up here, from what I have been reading the AGM-88 attack profile is less likely to be defended by TOR, this is expected since the AGM-88 profile was adjusted. 

thank you 

I was just playing with this and I can say that SA-15 TOR's aggressively defended against AGM-88's that I fired at them .  Set to Engage Air Weapons and Alarm State RED.

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, rob10 said:

I was just playing with this and I can say that SA-15 TOR's aggressively defended against AGM-88's that I fired at them .  Set to Engage Air Weapons and Alarm State RED.

feel free to add a short track replay, but as mentioned I did say less likely to defend not unlikely.

[nighteyes2017]

On 7/24/2025 at 8:14 PM, rob10 said:

I was just playing with this and I can say that SA-15 TOR's aggressively defended against AGM-88's that I fired at them .  Set to Engage Air Weapons and Alarm State RED.

I am currenty building a mission and have the same settings. Evade off, Status Red. I cannot get the SA15's to engage the harms. So whats the difference?

I am trying to get the SA15's to defend the SA2 next to it. But every time the only start to launch about 1 second before the harm impacts the SA2. Too late. 

They used to be much more aggresive. I now am unable to get any sam to engage the harm. Maybe the new harm profile is now too good?

[Fro]

The only unit Ive found to be able to do point defence currently is C-RAM, I can drop the test miz, consists of 1 SA-3 site, covered by 2x single unit groups of popular SHORAD units, each with differing settings (for instance one with engage air weapons, one with defend against ARM), with attacking F-4s using Shrikes configured with mk37 fuzes in loft for the SA-3 

Edited 2 hours ago by Fro