Mission 8 unplayable

[Wild Wolves VFW]

311 pretty much collides with 410 and wont move to CAT 2.  I took CAT 1 and it eventually clears. Unfortunately,  the SEAD flight remains in a holding pattern over the sea.  Which was fun after my 40 minute low level ingress in the dark to Waypoint 3 

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[Badger633]

As responded elsewhere both current DCS bugs. Will be reporting them, suggest you do the same so ED gets them corrected. The blocking as gone through many campaigns not just mine.  

[unclesneep]

not just in mission 8.. happens in mission 4 too.

I tried to be smart and tried deleting dodge from the carrier with Olympus so my wingman could get to the cat... ended up failing the mission as i assume dodge is critical in some way haha

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[Badger633]

Hi @unclesneep

Yes things are linked up so a missing character can mess things up. It is a DCS bug and I have reported to ED. 

 

[Wild Wolves VFW]

Thanks @Badger633 , great campaign once again!

[Badger633]

Hi @unclesneep @Wild Wolves VFW

Have found a work round fix for the blocking carrier aircraft. Will be in next update.

[unclesneep]

@Badger633did the workaround make it into todays patch by chance?

[Badger633]

@unclesneep Unfortunately not,  it was a surprise hotix update. We did not know about it only campaign update files already in the system got through. I have asked that there be a full update as soon as possible, but we are in EDs hands.

[Dogger Dude]

Mission 11 has the same issue 

[Badger633]

@Dogger Dude Yeah I know, already fixed just waiting for ED to issue it.

[unclesneep]

@Badger633 I submitted a ticket to ed.  Didn't get anywhere.  Apparently they blame the campaign creators.  Here's a screenshot of the convo.  I shared this with reflected as well since his campaigns are also impacted.  He said he would follow up with his ed contact.

Edited August 6, 2024 by unclesneep

[Badger633]

Hi @unclesneep

These missions have worked for over a year. They incorporate the use of uncontrolled AI aircraft which are later activated to control when they start up in the mission. EDs response is mistaken in that it’s not the creator switching off the AI which has caused the mission to block but either a recent DCS bug or a change how aircraft move on the carrier, as all was fine before the updates. So you can see it’s not down to the creators.

I have now, in light of the DCS changes, adjusted things and removed the use of uncontrolled AI aircraft on the carrier, and so fixed missions from all my campaigns. Fix will be in next update.

[Reflected]

19 minutes ago, Badger633 said:

Hi @unclesneep

These missions have worked for over a year. They incorporate the use of uncontrolled AI aircraft which are later activated to control when they start up in the mission. EDs response is mistaken in that it’s not the creator switching off the AI which has caused the mission to block but either a recent DCS bug or a change how aircraft move on the carrier, as all was fine before the updates. So you can see it’s not down to the creators.

I have now, in light of the DCS changes, adjusted things and removed the use of uncontrolled AI aircraft on the carrier, and so fixed missions from all my campaigns. Fix will be in next update.

We can't possibly remove and re-add features in our missions based on what works and what doesn't at a given time in the core of DCS  We can only ensure playability assuming the core of DCS works as advertised. I'm also having a lot of headache with carrier based mission right now...

Edited August 6, 2024 by Reflected

[unclesneep]

Well both your missions are great and I dont regret buying them.  Here's to ed fixing things asap

Edited August 6, 2024 by unclesneep

[Badger633]

@unclesneep Hopefully update should be due shortly.

[rob10]

10 hours ago, Reflected said:

We can't possibly remove and re-add features in our missions based on what works and what doesn't at a given time in the core of DCS  We can only ensure playability assuming the core of DCS works as advertised. I'm also having a lot of headache with carrier based mission right now..

Thanks to all the creators that keep updating things as DCS changes!  Appreciate your work!!  I wish you didn't have to do it, but I'm not sure how you get around continually updating/(hopefully) improving DCS without ending up with things broken in previous missions .  It's an unfortunate tradeoff.

[Badger633]

Should now be fixed in 9th Aug Update. 

[rosty]

I have tried this mission 2 times now - it fails every time saying I didnt destroy ground targets. However, I did. Track attached.

 

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[Badger633]

@rosty thanks will have a look.

[Badger633]

OK @rosty

Checked out your track and produced Tacview from it. Your correct you hit the target . The new problem is, (as this mission has worked for years check out Flying Kennys fly-through of the mission in the playlist on my you tube channel), that the AI wing has not done it's job which it has done consistently until now. For some reason it looks as if the bombs have either missed or were dud maybe. This is why their target warehouse was not destroyed, even though you got the message that both were destroyed, as they normally are. 

I will adjust this mission so that the wing never fails and so preventing this issue in the future. As I say, it worked before so out of my control, you just got to love DCS updates. There is a campaign creators saying 'Never trust an AI to do something that may break a mission'

Thanks for the heads up , at least it wasn't you, you hit the target on the head. Will have a fix in the next update.

[rosty]

Okay, thank you! I will switch to the Operation Green Line until the fix is released.