Hydra rockets not displayed correctly?

[Apache 64]

Hi there,

have a little problem with the hydra rockets for the Apache.

All hydras i load do look like this:

nullexept the M229HE:

But how can i get these from this youtube screenshot?

I use MT Version, did slow repair, deleted fxo and shadercache, no mods installed.

Any idea? Or it´s a bug?

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Edited August 18, 2024 by Apache 64

[razo+r]

Different hydras have different warheads. The ones you want should be the HE ones. 

[Apache 64]

vor 49 Minuten schrieb razo+r:

Different hydras have different warheads. The ones you want should be the HE ones. 

I know that and that is axactly my problem. They are all NOT displayed in the external view exept de HEs.

For ALL other variants there is NO warhead visible in front of the launcher, in my case.

Hence the third screenshot from a youtube video (not mine) where you can see other heads on the hydras. Very spiky, not like the HEs. 

Cannot get those displayed. All exept the ME229 HE do look like empty tubes.

And yes, some variants might not overlap the launch tube. If so, it is not diplayed for me.

Another better screenshot from the same video.

There you can see one of the variants not displayed for me. 

You can even see fuse wires on the warheads. Unbelievable. It doesn't exist for me.
A little extra info:
I can equip and use all variants.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Apache 64
another screen added

[razo+r]

Do you run any mods? Have you ran a repair?

[Apache 64]

vor 28 Minuten schrieb razo+r:

Do you run any mods? Have you ran a repair?

...as written in the opening post:

I use MT Version, did slow repair, deleted fxo and shadercache, no mods installed.

[NeedzWD40]

4 hours ago, Apache 64 said:

But how can i get these from this youtube screenshot?

Those are the inaccurate M282 AP warheads that were removed. Check the M257 and M151 w/ M433 RC fuze and see if those stick out; also check the back of the launcher as M151 sized warheads will be mostly flush with the front of the launcher.

[Apache 64]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb NeedzWD40:

Those are the inaccurate M282 AP warheads that were removed. ......

Check the M257 and M151 w/ M433 RC fuze and see if those stick out

Thanks for the info...have made some screens for better illustration:

M151 HE:

M151 HE, M433 RC Fuze:

M229 HE:

M274 TP-SM:

Once again, is it correct that only the M229 HE (and these for illumination) protrude from the launcher tube?

All the others end deep in the tube and are barely visible?

 

[TheGhostOfDefi]

1 hour ago, Apache 64 said:

Thanks for the info...have made some screens for better illustration:

M151 HE:

M151 HE, M433 RC Fuze:

M229 HE:

M274 TP-SM:

Once again, is it correct that only the M229 HE (and these for illumination) protrude from the launcher tube?

All the others end deep in the tube and are barely visible?

 

Those types that stick out are longer overall, so yeah that’s correct. The 229er have almost twice the warhead weight but are same in diameter so to add more stuff they need to get longer. 

[Apache 64]

Am 9.8.2024 um 00:26 schrieb NeedzWD40:

Those are the inaccurate M282 AP warheads that were removed.

...any source or more (official) infos on that?

And how can they appear in a new DCS youtube video?

When were they removed?

Are those M282 or more likely M255A1? M282 should be a shorter warhead than eg. the M151.?

Thanks in advance.

Edited August 18, 2024 by Apache 64

[NeedzWD40]

21 minutes ago, Apache 64 said:

...any source or more (official) infos on that?

Nothing that I can share I'm afraid. On a pure technical basis, nothing is actively preventing one from taking a M282 warhead and slapping it on a Mk66 motor, but the warhead was developed for use with APKWS to make a more potent light anti-armor weapon. For the 64's software, it'd probably be no different than the existing ballistic calculations for the M151 we already have, though I'm not sure what fuzing combination a M282 would use (most likely just the PD setting). On a reality basis, the US Army doesn't use this warhead with a raw Mk66 motor; I'm uncertain if they even use APKWS with this warhead, as to my knowledge only the M151 is used with that system.

The reason you see it in promotions is it's still technically possible to use it, either with old saved payloads or payload hacks. It was erroneously added to the initial payload options for the module. I did like them for anti-armor operations, but as noted, from a strict realism standpoint they're inaccurate.

[Apache 64]

vor 10 Minuten schrieb NeedzWD40:

....but as noted, from a strict realism standpoint they're inaccurate.

Thanks for the clarryfication.

Had seen such rockets in the pictures here too:

 

[NeedzWD40]

1 hour ago, Apache 64 said:

Had seen such rockets in the pictures here too:

Those are M255, M261, or M259 warheads. Flechette, MPSM, or smokers. Most likely flechettes.