Request 4K51 Rubezh

[supersylph]

There are now several units in the game with the MAZ-543 chassis.And there is also a P15 anti-ship missile in the game.Hopefully, a 4K51 Rubezh can be made based on these.The movable missile launcher allows for more flexible mission creation.

[bies]

Yes, important Soviet anti-ship missile system, it would be particularly usefull on Kola map for Cold War Gone Hot campaigns.

[Northstar98]

+1

But there isn't a P-15 missile in game - there is a missile derived from the P-15 - the HY-2 [CSSC-3 Seersucker] (though the 4K51 actually fires the P-20/P-22 [SSC-3 Styx] missile). But the HY-2 is a different missile to the P-15 and the P-20 (though it's roughly the equivalent of the P-15M, which is what the P-20 is based off of).

While the in-game infobar refers to this missile as the SS-N-2 Styx (i.e. the NATO designation and reporting name for the P-15), this is incorrect - the actual designation and reporting name for the missile we have is the CSSC-3 Seersucker.

According to some sources (see appendix C of this (page 113 of the reader) for the HY-2 and here for SSC-3 Styx), the 2 missiles have a similar maximum range of approximately 40-50 nautical miles. The HY-2 missile AFAIK is lengthened (though it's sometimes difficult to tell in photos) and some sources give the HY-2's range as 110 nautical miles, which is over double that of the P-20/P-22.

There are other physical differences as well, not only is the HY-2 longer, but it also doesn't have folding wings (meaning it wouldn't fit into the launchers of the 3P51 TEL/TELAR), the missile also has a fairly prominent raceway (at least I think it's a raceway) on the bottom of the missile, which the P-20/22 missile doesn't have. The P-20/22 (as well as other versions of the P-15/-15M) instead has 2 smaller raceways on either side of the missile (it can be clearly seen in the photograph below, here's a better image, showing the same configuration).

I'm not sure entirely, but I think we might have the HY-2G missile (owing to the low sea-skimming, terminal phase altitude - but I'm not sure what the terminal phase altitude of non-G variant missiles are, so barge of salt at the ready).

P-22 (presumably) missile:

HY-2 missile:

(Note the single ventral raceway)

On 9/3/2024 at 10:30 AM, bies said:

Yes, important Soviet anti-ship missile system, it would be particularly usefull on Kola map for Cold War Gone Hot campaigns.

For the Kola map, the 4K44 Redut system would be more appropriate, as that's what was actually used there. It would however require the side-sided version of the Binom [Scoop Pair] radar for missile tracking (and possibly target acquisition - though you can find trailer-mounted MR-10/Mys radars (similar to the Mys-M1E we already have) on the Stredny peninsula (check the photos here).

Edited September 12, 2024 by Northstar98
Corrections, added link to source, corrected MR10/Mys radar locations