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[Ramstein]

With Scenery tools..

 

A nice Vietnam map would be outstanding.. wish I could make a good map, but I most likely would not be able to make a make,, I have never made one..

 

just saying, that would be great having a good one,,,

Wings Over Vietnam has one (of course..) but it sucks,, al th effort was put into gameplay, but not into the map.. now imgine having helos and fixed wing..

 

WOW! :pilotfly:

[T-Bone]

Have you read the book Tom Clancy's Fighter Wing? It has a modern day scenario in Vietnam with USAF F-15E's. Might be a fun map to make for somebody.

 

With Scenery tools..

 

A nice Vietnam map would be outstanding.. wish I could make a good map, but I most likely would not be able to make a make,, I have never made one..

 

just saying, that would be great having a good one,,,

Wings Over Vietnam has one (of course..) but it sucks,, al th effort was put into gameplay, but not into the map.. now imgine having helos and fixed wing..

 

WOW! :pilotfly:

[luckybob9]

looks like this:

-in first picture is lockon without my google satelite images layer over terrain :(

its only green default layer over my terrain.

-in second pictures is black shark with google satelite images layer over terrain.

 

why i dont see same google satelite images layer over terrain in lockon ???

 

That green seems to be the noise file. Double check that your textures are in the TempTexture folder. There is a TestTexture folder, do not confuse these. Also, if that is the noise layer, it should not be appearing at such a far visible distance. There is a setting in the graphics.cfg file i think that says at what distance the noise file kicks in. Check your graphics.cfg file. The bold part is the visiblity of the noise file....I think..

 

OldLandNoise

{

perSquare = 5;

perSquare2 = 150;

front = 1000;

back = 10000;

top = 2500;

map_high = 20000;

bottom = 2000;

noisemax = 0.6;

noisemin = 0.1;

}

NoiseStrip

{

min = 2095;

max = 2505;

}

[Hawg11]

lucky, thx, all works correct.

I have a question - in tutorial about displace-modificator, shown strength-parametr = 75000m. why exactly 75000? I suppose if make nonNevada terrain(like in tutors) strength should be different and instance from geography...

 

75000 was found to be the number to use on the Nevada terrain I had worked on when writing the instructions that are on the Wiki page. It was very time consuming and took much effort loading the terrain into .max, exporting to the game, and comparing the height values for known mountains/valleys against real word data.

 

I thought I mentioned this in the instructions (sorry if I forgot)... You will need to check the elevations in-game to ensure accuracy...adjust values as needed.

 

Luckybob, since you folks started over with a higher resolution terrain mesh, it would definitely be advisable to check in-game elevation data...

Edited February 26, 2010 by Hawg11

[T-Bone]

Guys, in Global Mapper what should I set vertical exaggeration to in 3D view to get an accurate elevation preview?

 

 

Thanks!

[Batou]

@Pirke77

 

Try to compress you texture in a cdds, if you have to many texture in the temptexture, FC can't read all of them.

[Hawg11]

I guess I should have checked before now.

 

I noticed that the guys who uploaded step 9: "9a A Better Template.doc" to the Wiki left out the actual template (it is too large to fit inside a word .doc). They must have missed this...I'll be uploading it to lockonfiles.com shortly. This is a MUCH higher resolution template and will result in a much higher quality terrain.

 

The template embedded inside the "9 Importing 3D max.doc" word doc is extremely low res and the final product will (by comparison) yield very poor results.

 

EDIT: The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

Edited February 28, 2010 by Hawg11

[T-Bone]

The template with 16 512x512 pieces?

 

 

These results look decent to me, and dare I say better than the stock terrain IMHO, but hey if you've got something even better go ahead and upload it :)

Edited February 27, 2010 by T-Bone

[Hawg11]

Yes, that one. The file Template.max embedded in the file "9 Importing 3D max.doc" is only 193 KB.

 

The file Template hi res.max associated with "9a A Better Template" is 22.4 MB.

 

The reason why this is crucial is because there are much more data points that the DEM can use to form the terrain shape (prior to optimizing).

 

EDIT: The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

Edited February 28, 2010 by Hawg11

[T-Bone]

So the hills and valleys and coastlines would be more detailed?

[Hawg11]

About 1160 times more detailed (prior to optimizing), if my math is right.

 

EDIT: The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

Edited February 28, 2010 by Hawg11

[T-Bone]

Any performance hits ingame?

[T-Bone]

Well I built mine using the one in the wiki word lesson not the 26 mb one so I'm wondering if the more detailed dem info would make FC run slower..

[Pirke77]

That green seems to be the noise file. Double check that your textures are in the TempTexture folder. There is a TestTexture folder, do not confuse these. Also, if that is the noise layer, it should not be appearing at such a far visible distance. There is a setting in the graphics.cfg file i think that says at what distance the noise file kicks in. Check your graphics.cfg file. The bold part is the visiblity of the noise file....I think..

 

OldLandNoise

{

perSquare = 5;

perSquare2 = 150;

front = 1000;

back = 10000;

top = 2500;

map_high = 20000;

bottom = 2000;

noisemax = 0.6;

noisemin = 0.1;

}

NoiseStrip

{

min = 2095;

max = 2505;

}

 

 

TNHKS MY FRIEND:) ITS WORK :) THIS WAS REASON: noisemax = 0.6; noisemin = 0.1;

[T-Bone]

TNHKS MY FRIEND:) ITS WORK :) THIS WAS REASON: noisemax = 0.6; noisemin = 0.1;

 

Congrats on getting it fixed! :)

[Hawg11]

Well I built mine using the one in the wiki word lesson not the 26 mb one so I'm wondering if the more detailed dem info would make FC run slower..

 

No. It won't make it run slower...it's still a relatively low amount of polygons that are being rendered for what the game engine can handle (it can handle quite a bit!). It seems to slow down much worse with higher quality textures (as opposed to higher poly count).

 

EDIT: The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

Edited February 28, 2010 by Hawg11

[Hawg11]

The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

[T-Bone]

No. It won't make it run slower...it's still a relatively low amount of polygons that are being rendered for what the game engine can handle (it can handle quite a bit!). It seems to slow down much worse with higher quality textures (as opposed to higher poly count).

 

EDIT: The High Res 3DMax Template for Terrain Designers file is now uploaded to lockonfiles.com

 

I tried a 4096x4096 NOISE_1.bmp... horrendous frames per second.

 

I noticed you guys used 2048x2048, you think that's the best the engine can handle right now?

 

I hope with the more optimized code in FC 2.0, the engine can handle higher terrain noise textures because there is a huge improvement in the sense of speed at low level with higher detail.

Edited March 1, 2010 by T-Bone

[luckybob9]

I tried a 4096x4096 NOISE_1.bmp... horrendous frames per second.

 

I noticed you guys used 2048x2048, you think that's the best the engine can handle right now?

 

I hope with the more optimized code in FC 2.0, the engine can handle higher terrain noise textures because there is a huge improvement in the sense of speed at low level with higher detail.

 

 

 

Package it into a .cdds then try it

[aegeandp]

Is this thread alive?

[trujillostm]

Yes.

I'm waiting for new tools to create scenery...

[T-Bone]

Luckybob or Hawg

 

I need the steps to manually convert the LOD0 to LOD2 from the 4x4 square to the 2x2 square of 128x128 pixel bmps. I remember these steps:

 

"modifyer

edit geometry attach > first one

editable poly> all

select verticies

select quadrant

 

magnet 2.5

 

attach to dummies

 

modifyer UVW map in stack

 

do this for each tile INDIVIDUALLY"

 

However I'm a little rusty since I have been spending a few weeks trying to set up better satellite imagery. Thanks for your help

[luckybob9]

This is what I did,

select one of the four that you want. Attach that one to the other 3 to form a big square. go into vertex mode and select all the verts. Next to "weld", there is a little box square, click that, then set the threshold to .001. That should combine all the overlapping verts while not messing with any of the other ones. Next step is to reset the pivot point. Then, apply a uvw modifier to the entire thing. Finally, link it to a LOD2 dummy.

[T-Bone]

How do I reset the pivot point?

[T-Bone]

Here's a tip I discovered that will help terrain builders using landsat/satellite imagery in general to build maps:

 

While it may be tempting to crank up the saturation and contrast on some satellite images, it generally doesn't produce good looking results. This is because the DCS/LOMAC engine uses the satellite imagery as a color mask, and actually uses the Noise_1.bmp file for the actual terrain surface.

 

This is how my terrain looked at low altitude before.

 

 

I decreased the brightness and contrast by 50/100 in photoshop and it looked much better in terms of blending: