sylkhan Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) Locking a target in VS mode go directly to STT (not SAM), Bug ? jf-17 vs stt.trk Edited October 11 by uboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napillo Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Not a bug, it's in the manual. Feel free to read it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 (edited) 9 hours ago, Napillo said: Not a bug, it's in the manual. Feel free to read it once. Manual ? What manual ? I have a quick guide (from DEKA) and and the thunder guide from (Chuck) In the thunder guide i can read : "2. If RWS or VS mode is selected: a) Slew the TDC (Target Designator Controller) over a desired target and press the TDC (ENTER) to transfer from RWS to SAM mode. This is NOT a radar lock; you have merely set a target as the HPT (High Priority Target), which is represented as a circle. Other SPTs (Secondary Priority Targets) will be displayed as well without a circle. b) Press the TDC (ENTER) a second time to radar lock the desired target to STT (Single Target Track) mode. c) You can unlock target by using the S2 Sensor Control Switch DEPRESS" That means : for RWS or VS mode selected : first DTC press-->SAM mode, second DTC press-->STT mode Edited September 29 by sylkhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekwoj Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) Open the chinese manual, search VS, go to the VS chapter, copy it to google translate, here's the relevant part translated: Quote VS mode provides the longest air detection range on the KLJ-7 radar, but since it cannot indicate the target altitude and target range, it is only suitable for "sensing the existence of the target" at the greatest possible distance; when you try to lock a VS echo, the radar will directly enter STT mode without soft lock state. The quick guide mentions only TWS for SAM mode, it's Chuck's guide that has an error. Edited September 29 by tekwoj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 Chinese manual ..., ok thanks @tekwoj, i will translate the relevant part, but @Napillo seems to be refering to another manual ?, since he give me the advice to read it once, otherwise his remark would be just .... well ....plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karon Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Very late to the party, but I machine-translated the Chinese manual with a couple of tools. It's definitely nowhere near as close as a human translation, but I guess it is better than nothing. I used DeepL and another tool so, when something sounds odd, the same part can be cross-referenced with the other translation. More info here: https://flyandwire.com/2024/09/21/jf-17-full-manual-machine-translation/ Downloads here: https://flyandwire.com/download/ I hope this helps! 1 2 "Cogito, ergo RIO" Virtual Backseaters Volume I: F-14 Radar Intercept Officer - Fifth Public Draft Virtual Backseaters Volume II: F-4E Weapon Systems Officer - Internal Draft WIP Phantom Articles: Air-to-Air and APQ-120 | F-4E Must-know manoevure: SYNC-Z-TURN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 will check [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 @Karon your (translation) manual is very well done, very useful, many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 per manual, SAM is an intermediate mode between RWS and STT. Locking under VS directly enters STT. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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