Mission 1 Wingman doesn't break off to refuel

[db349]

Hi,

Some time after calling "intent to refuel" to the tanker, the dialogue triggers where Ford asks Wave to break off for a port side refuel, but he stubbornly stays in formation, any ideas ?

I'm doing everything like youtuber Flying Kenny and others, correct parameters, waiting with ready precontact call etc. In the videos Wave breaks off after the dialogue, but now he stays on my wing.

I understand there have been a number of changes where initially Wave would refuel port side and as mentioned in the mission notes, now he should refuel starboard side (am I correct?) but I assume this issue only comes into play after the breakoff so it's not at the root of the issue, correct ?

Looking for a clear step by step approach how to make it work for the latest DCS version as I would like to be able to finish this 1st mission successfully. 

Thanks

 

[Badger633]

Hi @db349

At the beginning of the brief you will see this,

"DUE TO CURRENT REFUEL BUG YOUR WING WILL NOT PLUG BUT STAY IN FORMATION. YOU NOW MUST PLUG ON LEFT BASKET UNTIL BUG FIXED." 

Originally had normal air to air refuel where your wing took part, worked for years, over the last 6 months  there has been various bugs where the wing dives to the ground or just simply goes AWOL. This then breaking missions throughout all my campaigns! So at the moment the wing will only follow until there is a reliable air to air refuel

once again established by ED. Your wing will not run out of fuel.

Hope this helps, not ideal, but better than having your wing flying off and breaking the mission for weeks on end. 

Edited October 14, 2024 by Badger633
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[db349]

Thanks Badger633 for your reply !

Ok I understand it’s an ED issue that needs fixing, but in other missions and campaigns so far and very recently I have always been able to have my wingman refuel using the “go to tanker” command. I understand in this particular mission we rely on an automated dialogue trigger whereby the wingman goes off to refuel, can’t this be easily solved by ordering him as aforementioned? I guess I only have to switch to a common freq (currently not set in the mission, i.e. I cannot interact with wingman).

Btw I forgot to thank you for all your amazing paid and free campaigns!

Regards

 

 

[Badger633]

Hi @db349

Thing to remember in campaigns your wing is rarely a true ED wingman that you as the player can instruct. They are normally an independent AI aircraft scripted to act as your wingman. This necessary to give the mission creator the necessary control to form the mission in the way the player experiences it. 
The problem with AI not carrying out air to air refuel is not straight forward even down to when in a mission it occurs and even working for some players not others! Have made numerous reports to ED but until now have not got a solid solution, there is certainly no simple answer at this point. This is why I had to go back through all my campaigns and rework many missions with this temp fix. 
Just cannot risk missions being broken for months on end. As soon as see I see a reliable solution I will update all the campaigns but it will have to be reliable for all players.

Glad you appreciated my campaigns thats what its all about at the end of the day.
 

[db349]

OK many thanks for your reply and your hard work keeping your campaigns up to date !

[db349]

I just discovered it's still possible to succeed and finish the mission without my wingman having refueled, I initially thought the bug broke the mission, but apparently not.

Sorry for having bothered, my bad !

[Badger633]

@db349 No it is a temporary fix that does not prevent you from passing any of the campaign missions. In fact quite the opposite the fix ensures you will not fail when your wing goes AWOL instead of refuelling.