NTTR - Collection of brevity and procedures for VO´s

[DonLuicia]

Hello combined DCS community knowledge,

I would like to have a collection of concrete example sentences for DCS mission creators.

As an aviation enthusiast who has no direct contacts in the sector and is not a native English speaker, it is often difficult to create missions with documents or sometimes difficult to understand real videos and audios.

So I thought there must be people here who can give real examples. Based on their real experiences or simply good relationships or well-founded knowledge. It would be great if the examples referred specifically to the NTTR and Nellis.

I don't know what is allowed and what is not. I hope that the people who post examples here know this and modify them if necessary. The more precise and concrete the examples, the better and easier it would be to use them for missions.

 

Interesting for me personally would be, for example:

- How do I check into a range or restricted area ? What does the pilot say - what does the air controller say? The same for a subrange ?

- Examples of a conversation between ROO and pilot ?

- How to check out ?

- Request to the tower for departures. Maybe also special ones like TAC A10 ?

- Request to the tower for landings.

- Checking out of Class B airspace ?

- General features that are only relevant for NTTR or could easily be displayed ?

- Does Nellis or Creech have a nickname for pilots and communication? Similar to Silverbow / Tonopah ?

- Conversation with Creech Tower and Pilot about Touch and Go exercises.

- What exactly is the “have quick” all about? Should this appear in every NTTR mission or is it only relevant in larger missions such as Red Flags (like Sedlo has already included it) ?

 

There is certainly much more. If you can think of any phrases that you would like to hear in a mission. Please add them or post them if you know them.

Many questions. I hope there are answers. I would really appreciate it and I think other Mission Creators would too. 

Thank you in advance for all the information you provide.

Edited November 24, 2024 by DonLuicia

[metzger]

Hello,

So this is a really long long topic. But I can quickly give a few examples from what I have heard. Note that I am no real pilot but have played DCS for quite some time now including with some real military aviators.

- First, as far as I am aware, requesting engine start is not a thing in military or at least it is rather uncommon.

- Always when you contact a controller or any new agency on the radio, you start with who are you calling, who you are, where you are and what you want. E.g.:

 "Nellies Ground, VIPER ONE, Two Vipers at Foxtrot one four three with Charlie for Taxi to active"   --> you are saying who you are, where you are, weather info you have and what you want.

Reply can be:

"VIPER One, Ground, taxi zero three right via foxtrot, alpha, hold short zero three LEFT"

Then readback can be very short and truncated from what I've heard:

"zero three right, foxtrot, alpha, hold zero three left, viper 1"

At the hold short, you would inform ground if he does not give you further instructions before you arrive there:

"ground, viper1, holding short zero three left at alpha"

He should clear you to cross:

"viper1 cross zero three left, hold short zero three right and contact tower one three two decimal five five"

readback:

"cross zero three left, hold short zero three right, contact tower, viper 1"

contacting tower once ready, since it is a new agencies, again who you call, who you are, where you are, what you want:

"nellies tower, viper 1, two vipers holding short runway zero three right for departure "

tower - "viper1, tower, wind is xxx for x, runway zero three right cleared for take off "

readback "zero three right cleared for takeoff, viper one"

-- at hold short, always ask for departure, and should always get cleared for take off. Never request clearance for take off, and should never get clearance for departure. 

-- Informational calls such as winds are not read back

-- this ofc is simplistic example, and I will repeat, I am nothing but DCS enthusiast, so take this example with a grain of salt. 

 

If you will make NTTR missions, I strongly advice you to browse 476th website. They have really really good info on NTTR ranges, procedures, restrictions and targets. Also pretty neat NTTR template.

https://www.476vfightergroup.com/nttr/nttr.php

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by metzger

[silverdevil]

4 hours ago, DonLuicia said:

Hello combined DCS community knowledge,

I would like to have a collection of concrete example sentences for DCS mission creators.

As an aviation enthusiast who has no direct contacts in the sector and is not a native English speaker, it is often difficult to create missions with documents or sometimes difficult to understand real videos and audios.

So I thought there must be people here who can give real examples. Based on their real experiences or simply good relationships or well-founded knowledge. It would be great if the examples referred specifically to the NTTR and Nellis.

I don't know what is allowed and what is not. I hope that the people who post examples here know this and modify them if necessary. The more precise and concrete the examples, the better and easier it would be to use them for missions.

 

Interesting for me personally would be, for example:

- How do I check into a range or restricted area ? What does the pilot say - what does the air controller say? The same for a subrange ?

- Examples of a conversation between ROO and pilot ?

- How to check out ?

- Request to the tower for departures. Maybe also special ones like TAC A10 ?

- Request to the tower for landings.

- Checking out of Class B airspace ?

- General features that are only relevant for NTTR or could easily be displayed ?

- Does Nellis or Creech have a nickname for pilots and communication? Similar to Silverbow / Tonopah ?

- Conversation with Creech Tower and Pilot about Touch and Go exercises.

- What exactly is the “have quick” all about? Should this appear in every NTTR mission or is it only relevant in larger missions such as Red Flags (like Sedlo has already included it) ?

 

There is certainly much more. If you can think of any phrases that you would like to hear in a mission. Please add them or post them if you know them.

Many questions. I hope there are answers. I would really appreciate it and I think other Mission Creators would too. 

Thank you in advance for all the information you provide.

hello. there is a really good publication titled Multiservice Brevity Codes from Defense Technical Information Center (DTIC)

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA404426.pdf

in your example "MICKEY HAVE QUICK time-of-day (TOD) signal" HAVE QUICK is a radio mode. A UHF jam-resistant radio.

another good resource for all F-16 blah blah.

https://www.f-16.net/

[DonLuicia]

Thank you for the specific answers, tips and feedback. I think I'm making good progress with this.