F14B / full flare loadout possible?

[Moose_Jaw]

Hi Chaps,

is it possible to give the Tomcat a "flare only" loadout and replace all chaff with flares?

Have a nice Thanksgiving!

 

[DSplayer]

2 hours ago, Moose_Jaw said:

Hi Chaps,

is it possible to give the Tomcat a "flare only" loadout and replace all chaff with flares?

Have a nice Thanksgiving!

 

Iirc by default, the F-14 has a 60x flares and a 40x chaff CM loadout (60 flares in the ALE-39 and 40 chaff in the LAU-138s). If you want to not take any chaff at all, you can take off the LAU-138 in the Mission Editor.

[Moose_Jaw]

45 minutes ago, DSplayer said:

Iirc by default, the F-14 has a 60x flares and a 40x chaff CM loadout (60 flares in the ALE-39 and 40 chaff in the LAU-138s). If you want to not take any chaff at all, you can take off the LAU-138 in the Mission Editor.

Dear DSplayer,

thanks for the reply. Is there any way to change the loadout to "flares only" via the rearm menue? That slider "Chaff / Flare" did not work.

Cheers

Moose

 

 

[Naquaii]

You need to change the loadout using the radio menu if you're in a mission or if using the mission editor using the rightmost tab with the aircraft selected (additional aircraft properties).

But there's currently no way to not carry the LAU-138 that has additional chaff (and can't have flares) and because of that one of the sections of the built in launcher needs to carry chaff. So the max amount of flares you can load is 50 as 10 needs to be chaff to enable the LAU-138. When we eventually add the possibility of carrying LAU-7 launchers instead of LAU-138 you will be able to carry 60 flares and no chaff.

[The_Tau]

On 11/29/2024 at 7:00 PM, Naquaii said:

You need to change the loadout using the radio menu if you're in a mission or if using the mission editor using the rightmost tab with the aircraft selected (additional aircraft properties).

But there's currently no way to not carry the LAU-138 that has additional chaff (and can't have flares) and because of that one of the sections of the built in launcher needs to carry chaff. So the max amount of flares you can load is 50 as 10 needs to be chaff to enable the LAU-138. When we eventually add the possibility of carrying LAU-7 launchers instead of LAU-138 you will be able to carry 60 flares and no chaff.

huh now thats interesting and i guess it makes sense. So even when you dont load in LAU 138 in mission editor and set flares to 60 by radio you still only get 50 flares?

[Naquaii]

7 hours ago, The_Tau said:

huh now thats interesting and i guess it makes sense. So even when you dont load in LAU 138 in mission editor and set flares to 60 by radio you still only get 50 flares?

Yes, as far as I remember that's how it is. I don't think you can not load the LAU-138 currently.

Edit: Seems I misremembered, if you uncheck "Load LAU-138 with chaff" you can have 60 flares, so 60 is max. That should probably be worded as do not use LAU-138 or something instead. But that's max, the LAU-138 we model on have chaff.

Edited December 2, 2024 by Naquaii

[The_Tau]

5 hours ago, Naquaii said:

Yes, as far as I remember that's how it is. I don't think you can not load the LAU-138 currently.

Edit: Seems I misremembered, if you uncheck "Load LAU-138 with chaff" you can have 60 flares, so 60 is max. That should probably be worded as do not use LAU-138 or something instead. But that's max, the LAU-138 we model on have chaff.

hmm but wasnt it like the R20 controlled both R10+R20 when LAU 138 was installed?

[Naquaii]

36 minutes ago, The_Tau said:

hmm but wasnt it like the R20 controlled both R10+R20 when LAU 138 was installed?

Yeah, and R10 is connected to the LAU-138. That's what I meant by that option should probably say "Don't use LAU-138" instead as when you uncheck that it's as if the LAU-138 isn't mounted, thus allowing 60 flares.

The end goal is afaik to have the player able to choose LAU-7 or LAU-138 on the pylons themselves and have it visually show as well.

[Moose_Jaw]

Dear Naquaii,

Dear The_Tau,

Thank you for your help and thank you for the detailed explanation. 

 I just notice how deep the Tomcat is modelled, i am just scratching the surface!

Cheers