ECR-90 / Captor-M radars

[MysteriousHonza]

Hello everyone,
I would like to ask if there is any public information/source (as official as possible but not classified or from manual) about ECR-90 or Captor-M scan speed/rate. Not dish movement itself (even though useful too) but also how long it either takes to complete full scan.
Or just number of how fast it moves under RWS/TWS. Any info about priority track would be welcomed too.
I cant really find any numbers about it. Just antenna scan limits, modes but no numbers about speed.
I read that it can perform AG/AA modes at the same time few times but i cant find any official source for that, neither how fast it is (should be given you need quick scan for proper TWS and priority target track)

[F-2]

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Improved antenna pedestal perfor-mance through the use of electronically commutated d.c. motors coupled with an electronic control system. This is expected to provide a beam agility capability of 10-deg. elevation steps in 30 millisec., allow-ing the ECR-90 to rival electronic scan performance.

I have a bunch of AWST on CAPTOR with some good info if wanted

 

RBE2 for comparison 

[F-2]

To be clear though I’m not totally sure that we are understanding what it’s say. Some have suggested it’s mode switching rather then scanning that’s so fast.

[Spectre11]

On 12/12/2024 at 4:10 PM, MysteriousHonza said:

Hello everyone,
I would like to ask if there is any public information/source (as official as possible but not classified or from manual) about ECR-90 or Captor-M scan speed/rate. Not dish movement itself (even though useful too) but also how long it either takes to complete full scan.
Or just number of how fast it moves under RWS/TWS. Any info about priority track would be welcomed too.
I cant really find any numbers about it. Just antenna scan limits, modes but no numbers about speed.
I read that it can perform AG/AA modes at the same time few times but i cant find any official source for that, neither how fast it is (should be given you need quick scan for proper TWS and priority target track)

Captor-M doesn't really support mode interleaving. I can imagine that some people may have concluded that from AA ATCK and AS ATCK formats being simultaneously selected, but the attack format isn't a radar only display. It's a fused display format optimised for attack operations. 

Concerning Priority Track, it's a submode of TWS. As soon as tracks are designated as targets for engagement, priority track ensures that the designated targets are updated at a higher rate and tracked, even if they move out of the designated search volume, as long as they stay within the gimbal limits.

[Zahnatom]

17 hours ago, Spectre11 said:

Captor-M doesn't really support mode interleaving. I can imagine that some people may have concluded that from AA ATCK and AS ATCK formats being simultaneously selected, but the attack format isn't a radar only display. It's a fused display format optimised for attack operations. 

Concerning Priority Track, it's a submode of TWS. As soon as tracks are designated as targets for engagement, priority track ensures that the designated targets are updated at a higher rate and tracked, even if they move out of the designated search volume, as long as they stay within the gimbal limits.

So its a kind of "revisit" functionality?

[Spectre11]

25 minutes ago, Zahnatom said:

So its a kind of "revisit" functionality?

So to speak yes. It's also referred to as data adaptive scanning (DAS).

[MysteriousHonza]

On 12/13/2024 at 6:24 PM, Spectre11 said:

Captor-M doesn't really support mode interleaving. I can imagine that some people may have concluded that from AA ATCK and AS ATCK formats being simultaneously selected, but the attack format isn't a radar only display. It's a fused display format optimised for attack operations. 

Concerning Priority Track, it's a submode of TWS. As soon as tracks are designated as targets for engagement, priority track ensures that the designated targets are updated at a higher rate and tracked, even if they move out of the designated search volume, as long as they stay within the gimbal limits.

I know the priority track and what it does. Its up to 6 targets. Mainly used to guide amraam. 

What i cant find anywhere. Especially publicly available (not leaked manuals but couldn't find it in there either) is scan speed of radar dish. 

[Spectre11]

If you can't find it then it's probably not supposed to be out for public consumption...

[F-2]

So apparently the answer is in fact out there lol.

[BigBorner]

3 hours ago, F-2 said:

So apparently the answer is in fact out there lol.

Hahaha yes. And I’m sure it’s pure coincidence … or isn’t it op?!!

[Thorluis2]

Was it the warthunder leak?

[BigBorner]

Sort of? Allegedly people were fighting about Captor-M vs -E scan rates or something and someone posted some captor user manual. No I don’t have it. Yes I’m sad about that