Jyge Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I have Orion2 base and the Strike Ace EX II grips. I am flying both helos and fixed wing. I come from Thrustmaster Warthog and until now I have been rather happy with the package. Now, the biggest problem or irritation is coming from the fact that the throttle grips are rather heavy and in order to have them keep their position I need to set the friction rather high. There is notable difference between static and dynamic friction here, the Thrustmaster was smoother. So small precise adjustments are rather irritating as you always need to come over the static friction and once the lever is moving you tend to move it too much. Now, I was doing quite well with F-16C when the throttles were bundled togethet, but F/A-18 is more pain in the butt. The throttles tend to creep forward to afterburner and unlike in F-16C cockpit you do not even have a clear indication in cockpit when the engine is on burner, except the jump in FF. So in F-16C I was able to search the max mil power position and calm the throttle at that point. With F/A-18 I couple the throttles together after start, but missing the detent is disturbing. I might adjust the curvature so that I operate the mil power up to the point that the throttle is upright and make the afterburner part longer. Anyway, I am now thinking of equipping my throttle with fingerlifts, but I wonder whether it really solves anything, except the clear AB detent? The friction issue is lkely to remain. I would rather have a fingerlift or a friction brake that I can engage at any given point. When I am in need of adjustments I would like to have as little friction as possible, like during aerial refuelling. Another thing is that Winwing seems to have quite a long delivery times for fingerlifts, if I order them separately. I wonder if there are any really usable 3D print DYI alternatives?
Nightdare Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Seems to me you set your friction very light I have mine at a light resistance that takes no real force to move, but enough so it doesn't drop by itself, perhaps yours still needs to 'break in'? Fingerlifts are an absolute Plus, no guessing where the AB starts and the dead zone behind the idle point can actually be used for engine off As for 'aftermarket/3rd party fingerlifts',.. none available Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Base & Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Interceptor Rudder Pedals w. damper / WinWing Orion2 18, 18 UFC & HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Button Box
Blackhawk163 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I mean if you're looking to safe on some costs there's these or even this one. I'm sure they might be cheaper in price but likewise in quality. Those are but a few I found (and I'm sure you found them too) but I'm sure they'll work just fine. That answers your last question. Unfortunately, the friction part will have you having to deal with it until broken in. I have mine set so that the friction is just enough to hold the throttles in place, obviously the left needing less than the right. I do not lock my throttles, so I never worry about them falling as a result of their combined weight. My first assigned aircraft is in my profile name Ryzen 9800x3d/64gb DDR5 amd expo/RTX 5080/4tb m2/ Win11 pro/Pimax crystal light Winwing Orion F16ex (Shaker kit)/Skywalker pedals/Orion 2 F15EX II Throttle/3 MFD units/Virpil CM3 Mongoose Throttle/Trackir 5 F-16/A10II A/C /F-18/F-15E/F-15C/F-14/F5E II/F-4/Ah64/UH60/P51-D/Super Carrier/Syria/Sinai/Iraq/Persian Gulf/Afghanistan/Nevada/Normandy 2.0
Phantom711 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) Am 3.1.2025 um 11:55 schrieb Jyge: Anyway, I am now thinking of equipping my throttle with fingerlifts, but I wonder whether it really solves anything, except the clear AB detent? I would argue that the Orion 2 is kinda‘ „useless“ without the fingerlifts…or at least very degraded. I mean how do you even know how to fly with MIL power or deliberately select AB? Other than that…simply adjust the friction to your own preference! Edited January 4 by Phantom711 vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord.
Jyge Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 (edited) I found this from thingverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6717025. I already made my first changes and ordered couple of springs from amazon. It may be that the friction adjustment might get better after some hours, but like I said, I do not like how much force you need to use to overcome static friction, so at the moment I use very little friction. The positive thing about the 3D printed models is, that I can get the position of the interfaces on the throttles and do my own rigging. Afterburner detent is good for jets, but it sucks with helicopters, I am looking for something that I can easily adapt on the fly. I am also thinking that I would rather have a friction brake that I can easily set in any position, but something that I can lift it so that the movement is easy. Edited January 4 by Jyge
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