SpecteRED Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Can anyone tell me with which load it is really possible to take off vertically without the slightest mileage? I tried with 2 mavericks and a sighting container (40% fuel) - I couldn't take off.. It was obvious that it was almost coming off. It's just that the question is, where is less already? Take off empty at all? What's the point?) the weight of the aircraft was 22.5k lb water is turned on for takeoff, flaps at 60. nozzles at ~80 degrees F-18, F-16, A-10C, F-14, F-4, M-2000, AV-8B, JF-17, KA-50, Mi-24, Mi-8, UH-1H, AH-64D
kotor633 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 This is all described exactly in the AV8B manual or Chuck's Guide. There are also plenty of tutorials on YouTube. ************************************** DCS World needs the Panavia Tornado! Really! **************************************
AndyJWest Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Yup. The maximum weight for VTO is 20,500 lb at standard temperature and pressure. If vertical takeoff has ever been used in combat, it must have been exceptional circumstances. Operationally, the Harrier is STOVL - short takeoff, vertical landing. 1
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Yeah when I first got the Harrier I was like, “What!? Can’t take off vertically with a simple A2G load?” IIRC, without the Tpod and at 40%? fuel you could take 2 mavericks. If you still want some fun or practice and don’t mind unlimited fuel, at 20-25%? fuel you could take the Tpod with the lighter LGBs and JDAMs, one on each wing. That should keep you below the 20,500 weight limit. 1 AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
AndyJWest Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Alternatively, take off vertically with low fuel and then refuel in the air. Though you'll want to practice AAR first - the Harrier is a pig at it due to the location of the probe. Again, I doubt this was actually done much: it would be simpler to operate from where the tanker is coming from, or at least from an LHA or proper runway further from the target area.
buur Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Also take in mind that the thrust is depending on the altitude of the FARP. At sea level you can have a much heavier loadout than in the mountains.
Harry.R Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) I never saw a vertical takeoff with weapons (with 105 engine), the nearest our guys got was short take off which was pretty impressive. As mentioned above, STO was a unique Harrier party trick, useful for taking off from deployed locations and in the event of war, airfields that had been attacked where the runway(s) was out of action. Aircraft were pretty lightly armed by DCS loadout comparrison, usually some bombs (dumb or PGM), CRV7s or Mavericks, with a pair of fuel tanks, certainly not the 'beast mode' load outs you'll see people using in servers. They did do VTO but only when really lightly loaded, and not all landings were from the hover as there were certain conditions that were suboptimal for this. The newer 107 engine (Same as the 408 in the AV8B+) changed that , and I believe that is the simulated motor in the N/A? Tanking was routinely practiced. Edited January 13 by Harry.R 2
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