Red_Dragon Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I realized that I was missing such an option for the joystick. On the one hand, I lack the precision of my joystick (Cobra M5) for proper refueling. On the other hand, I don't see the point in buying a new grip with more buttons for my Gunfighter 3. Since a new grip can cost 200- 300 usd and all I need is the usual option to reduce the axis response so that my cheaper joystick could work fine in DCS. On the other hand, many pilots in the DCS, as I know, often use cheap joysticks just like me, so many I think have significant difficulties with refueling. After all, the movements of such a joystick do not correspond to the movements of a real stick in an airplane. Those who have VIRPIL or VKB joysticks can program the reduction of axis to the joystick button. But the others don't. What do you think about this? Dear Deka Ironwork Simulations, could you add such an option for refueling?
Falconeer Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I think its perfect at the moment. The Jeff is one of the harder planes to refuel and to me, thats what i like about it. You can mess around with curves/deadzones in DCS to counter your joystick issues and practice more.... and i mean a lot of practice.... no joke The Jeff took me the longest to ever hook up to a tanker, plz don't take that satisfaction away from me! 3 Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper Afghanistan F-15E Strike Eagle Kola Peninsula Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat F-4E Phantom
Red_Dragon Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 In fact, limiting the axis response won't make refueling too easy, it's certainly not a cheat. I have several joysticks, and on one of them I use a similar function to limit the axis response. But there are too few buttons on this joy for an airplane like Jeff)). Take my word for it, if you don't know how to refuel, the axis limiting won't help you. It's just that this function removes spurious movements, brings you closer to the real movements of the stick in a real airplane, if you don't have an extension for the joystick.
Falconeer Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, Red_Dragon said: In fact, limiting the axis response won't make refueling too easy, it's certainly not a cheat. I disagree, if the JF17 had such system in RL, i'm sure Deka would have implemented it already 3 hours ago, Red_Dragon said: Take my word for it, if you don't know how to refuel, I have litterly thousands of hours in flightsims, I do think i know how to refuel by now 3 hours ago, Red_Dragon said: the axis limiting won't help you. It's just that this function removes spurious movements, brings you closer to the real movements of the stick in a real airplane, if you don't have an extension for the joystick. I think setting a "curve" can really help with some joystick, as you can really change how the stick is responding near the center. Try to set a curve of about 15 and try again, it WILL make a difference vs lineair axis. While i do agree that extensions make it easier, whats even helping more is to move the joystick to a comfortable place, in between your legs or by your side. A lot of people (not saying you are one of them) are sitting at a desk with the joystick on top of it. This way it will never be easy to make small and accurate inputs for example refueling as your arm fatiques rather quickly. Edited January 19 by Falconeer 1 Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper Afghanistan F-15E Strike Eagle Kola Peninsula Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat F-4E Phantom
BigBorner Posted January 19 Posted January 19 You already have 2 techniques that might help a bit. Put the Jeff in A/G 2 FLCS configuration, which dampens the yaw inputs a little bit. Or, the basically nuclear one, put it in altitude hold AP. That dampens a whole lot. (disclaimer: I’m still to stupid to make AAR happen)
Red_Dragon Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 Yes I agree with you, and also I can use V joy for reduction of axis response for non VKB \ VIRPIL joys, but I just would like to have more simple way . Honestly I wander why we can't have such option as part of core DCS Imagine, we have duplication of all buttons as an easy gaming option, but we do not have an axis restriction for those who fly with a short joystick without extension
tekwoj Posted January 19 Posted January 19 6 hours ago, Red_Dragon said: Yes I agree with you, and also I can use V joy for reduction of axis response for non VKB \ VIRPIL joys, but I just would like to have more simple way . Honestly I wander why we can't have such option as part of core DCS Imagine, we have duplication of all buttons as an easy gaming option, but we do not have an axis restriction for those who fly with a short joystick without extension If you always fly JF-17 with the same joystick then why not set a curve for roll and pitch in DCS controls? I don't see a reason why you would want a higher response curve when flying normally, when you still need precision for things like bombing, strafing, or formation flying?
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