brettt777 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 So, I have a few add-ons I got from here. I few of them work and I can fly them but some, particularly the VSN mods, will only show up as an AI pilot. I do have FC3 and all the planes including the F-15C that go with it. That all works. When I am settting up these "missions' they are set to "Player" and "Player0". I have even tried loading an F-15C prior to trying the VSN model but I still only get AI. Some of these... like the F-100, F-104, F-105 and F-106... used to work. They were totally flyable. The only one that has never worked for me is the VSN F-35. I even had the VSN F-22 that worked. I have a couple other add-ons that don't use the FC3 add-on and they work fine. I had heard somewhere that these VSN planes would only work if the mission was setup in a certain way. So... what am I missing? What is the trick to get these VSN mods working and flyable? AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
Rudel_chw Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 hours ago, brettt777 said: … I have even tried loading an F-15C prior to trying the VSN model but I still only get AI. Some of these... like the F-100, F-104, F-105 and F-106... used to work. not all vsn mods employ the F-15C binaries, some use the A-10A, Su-27 or Su-33 … I can fly the F-104 if I enter first the F-15C and then change slot to the F-104, as shown here: For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
brettt777 Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 4 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: not all vsn mods employ the F-15C binaries, some use the A-10A, Su-27 or Su-33 … I can fly the F-104 if I enter first the F-15C and then change slot to the F-104, as shown here: I have all of those... A-10A, SU-27, SU-33, etc. If I get in one of those first, maybe...? Cuz I can get the F-104 to work. It's the other I have an issue with; F-35, F-22, F-105, F-106. Most of those used to work. The F-35 is the one that has never worked. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
brettt777 Posted April 30 Author Posted April 30 On 4/28/2025 at 4:33 AM, Rudel_chw said: not all vsn mods employ the F-15C binaries, some use the A-10A, Su-27 or Su-33 … I can fly the F-104 if I enter first the F-15C and then change slot to the F-104, as shown here: Okay, I am a little confused about this "changing slots...". What exactly do you mean by that? AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
GrafRotz Posted April 30 Posted April 30 (edited) First jump into an F-15c (or one of the others mentioned, depending of the VSN), this will load the corresponding files for the VSN Mods. Jumping directly jumping into an VNS will not trigger loading those files. Edited April 30 by GrafRotz
brettt777 Posted April 30 Author Posted April 30 9 hours ago, GrafRotz said: First jump into an F-15c (or one of the others mentioned, depending of the VSN), this will load the corresponding files for the VSN Mods. Jumping directly jumping into an VNS will not trigger loading those files. Okay, I get that. But what do you mean by "changing slots"? I have tried loading an F-15C, then getting out of that mission and then getting into a VSN aircraft. But something tells me there's an easier way to do it. Does it involve have both aircraft in the same "mission?" Do I literally jump from one aircraft to another in the same scenario? AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
GrafRotz Posted April 30 Posted April 30 47 minutes ago, brettt777 said: Do I literally jump from one aircraft to another in the same scenario? exact! Just park them somewhere. with changing slot is ment the screen, where you shoose your plane and then press ESC, choose different slot (or choose slot? dont remember, that damn muscle memory ^^ ) Loading a different mission would reset the loaded files.
brettt777 Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 14 hours ago, GrafRotz said: exact! Just park them somewhere. with changing slot is ment the screen, where you shoose your plane and then press ESC, choose different slot (or choose slot? dont remember, that damn muscle memory ^^ ) Loading a different mission would reset the loaded files. Okay, I'm still not sure where you're getting these aircraft "slots" from, but I set up a mission with the F-15C as the player aircraft and a VSN F-35 in it. I started in the F-15C and then tried to "jump' to the other aircraft with RALT+J. Didn't work. Nothing happened. I also tried the same scenario with a MiG-29. Same thing. When I tried unsuccessfully to jump to the F-35, that didn't work. but I could "jump" back into the F-15 or MiG-29 so I know my "jump" function works. I just can't jump into certain VSN aircraft for some reason (I tried the VSN F-22 as well). I also tried that mod where you modify the entry.lua files for all the FC3 aircraft so they automatically load when you start DCS. All that did was make the sim load extremely slow. Sill couldn't get into the F-35. So, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I will try the VSN group on Discord and see if I can find an aswer ther. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
GrafRotz Posted May 1 Posted May 1 can you give me a link, where you downloaded it? Ill give it a try
brettt777 Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 20 hours ago, GrafRotz said: can you give me a link, where you downloaded it? Ill give it a try Actually that's not necessary. I went on the Discord VSN page and found a newer version of thier F-22 and the F-35. I removed the ones I had and tried these and they both worked without a hitch. Ironically, once I saw that these fifth gen fighters had old F-15C cockpits in them, it kind of spoiled it for me. So after all that, it was kind of a let down but hey, live and learn. We're supposed to get a real F-35 some day. We'll see. 1 AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.4ghz, 64gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, GeForce RTX-3060ti 8GB DDR6, Three KTC 32" QHD monitors @ 165hz, Rosewill 80plus Bronze 1000w, Corsair Hydro H100i, 2tb M.2 SSD for OS, Two 3tb HDD, 2tb SSD for DCS, P3D, Star Citizen, Sound Blaster Zx, Thermaltake Overseer RX-I, Winwing Orion 2 HOTAS F-15EX throttle and F-16EX stick, Winwing 3 MFD MIP with FA-18 UFC and F-16 ICP, TrackIR 5, Surround Speakers & Subwoofer, Oculus Quest 2 VR. :joystick::pilotfly:
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