Ground power and vibration test

[Jarda]

hi, i tried the start procedure according to the video: Starting Mi-24 and i found that the ground crew will not disconnect the ground power. i try it at the same moment as in the video. also the vibration test button is not working. Can someone try the ground power disconnection problem?

[kotor633]

Hello,
I'm not entirely sure (we don't have a comprehensive manual yet), but it's possible that the vibration test button function isn't implemented in DCS.

Regarding disconnecting ground power: I don't know whether there's currently a bug or not. Or is the error possibly related to your handling? Unfortunately, I can't do much with the video since there's no English translation.

[Raffi75]

19 hours ago, Jarda said:

hi, i tried the start procedure according to the video: Starting Mi-24 and i found that the ground crew will not disconnect the ground power. i try it at the same moment as in the video. also the vibration test button is not working. Can someone try the ground power disconnection problem?

Vibration control is not added in the game.

Here you have the airport power connection and disconnection:

 

[Jarda]

thanks for the responses. 

There is an English description with individual times in the comments for the video. 

Vibration test: ok, maybe it will be added in the future. 

disconnecting ground power: I tried it again. it has to be disconnected BEFORE starting the APU. That works. But if I want to disconnect after turning on the APU, it doesn't work. I tried disconnecting after starting the engines and that didn't work either. According to the video tutorial from Raffi75, it works the same for me.

[Raffi75]

1 hour ago, Jarda said:

thanks for the responses. 

There is an English description with individual times in the comments for the video. 

Vibration test: ok, maybe it will be added in the future. 

disconnecting ground power: I tried it again. it has to be disconnected BEFORE starting the APU. That works. But if I want to disconnect after turning on the APU, it doesn't work. I tried disconnecting after starting the engines and that didn't work either. According to the video tutorial from Raffi75, it works the same for me.

I think I understand what you mean. Right now, for ground crew to do anything with the helicopter (refueling, arming, airport power) it has to be completely turned off. Previously, it was enough to open the door and give a command. That changed with one of the last patches.

[Jarda]

Hopefully we'll see more updates and fixes throughout the year.

[kotor633]

Hi,
Today, after a long absence, I entered the virtual Mi-24 cockpit again. I performed a cold start (with ground power). And then, on page 181 of Chuck's guide, I had an aha moment...this also applies when you want to disconnect ground power. So, Raffi75's statement isn't entirely correct.

[admiki]

12 hours ago, Raffi75 said:

I think I understand what you mean. Right now, for ground crew to do anything with the helicopter (refueling, arming, airport power) it has to be completely turned off. Previously, it was enough to open the door and give a command. That changed with one of the last patches.

This is outright wrong. Everything works without shutting the helicopter down.

[Jarda]

9 hours ago, kotor633 said:

Hi,
Today, after a long absence, I entered the virtual Mi-24 cockpit again. I performed a cold start (with ground power). And then, on page 181 of Chuck's guide, I had an aha moment...this also applies when you want to disconnect ground power. So, Raffi75's statement isn't entirely correct.

Bingo. After switching to ICS on the SPU-8 panel, the ground power disconnection (off) works after starting the APU. Interestingly, BEFORE starting the APU, the switch can remain in the Radio position to request ground power connection (on).

 

Edited Thursday at 07:21 AM by Jarda

[admiki]

51 minutes ago, Jarda said:

Interestingly, BEFORE starting the APU,

Idea is that without APU or engines running, they can hear you just fine talking from your seat.

I can confirm that to be the case for the Mi-8.

[Jarda]

ah, that would make sense

[Raffi75]

Great info. I'm glad it works here (in game) and I was wrong. I just hope you know that in real life there is no such communication with ground crew. Switching to ICS allows communication inside the helicopter.

[admiki]

5 hours ago, Raffi75 said:

Great info. I'm glad it works here (in game) and I was wrong. I just hope you know that in real life there is no such communication with ground crew. Switching to ICS allows communication inside the helicopter.

Again, wrong.

Without APU or engines running, it's quite easy for ground crew to hear Mi-8 crew ( and I am guessing it is the same for Mi-24 crew) talking to them.

And there is a intercom receptacle for crew-to-ground crew comms.

And again, I am talking from real life experience as a GPU operator.

Edited Thursday at 04:29 PM by admiki

[Raffi75]

1 hour ago, admiki said:

Again, wrong.

Without APU or engines running, it's quite easy for ground crew to hear Mi-8 crew ( and I am guessing it is the same for Mi-24 crew) talking to them.

And there is a intercom receptacle for crew-to-ground crew comms.

And again, I am talking from real life experience as a GPU operator.

You must have misunderstood me. I didn't write that there is no communication with ground personnel at all, only that there is no communication with ground crew via ICS. There is no ground crew socket on the Mi-24 helicopter in D and W versions. All communication was face-to-face. I know this from my own experience.

Edited Thursday at 05:32 PM by Raffi75