F-1 Tactics vs. F-4

[SuperKermit]

What would be the most promising tactics in BVR and WVR against the F-4, especially in multiplayer? From my POV those two icons’ performance is quite closely matched...

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Edited May 1 by SuperKermit

[Spirale]

I am curious too, thx for your question

I feel that the F1 is on par with the F4 if the F1 is in "good hands". I find the F1 sightly superior @ low speed with combat flaps.

[jaguara5]

Best we can do to answer the question is extensive dogfights.  F1C vs F-4E is imo the best DACT duo in DCS, pretty balanced. 

If someone is interested to do such fights  shoot me a message so we can host a specific mission for that training. 

[Caldero]

Hi

From a Spanish Air Force hard wing, not slatted F-4C driver, against an F1 (we had both ac types in Spanish Air Force and DACT sometimes happened):

"F-1 was a better dogfighter due to its combat flaps. Stay below 15.000 ft to have some advantage, stay below 10.000 ft to win"

But the experience with an F-4E should be different

Regards

 

Edited May 20 by Caldero

[primus_TR]

In BVR, Mirage F1CE (if dry feet) will 9 out of 10 times detect the Phantom far earlier even at co-altitude and can launch its 530s, as the Phantom's radar suffers a lot (realistically) from ground clutter and noise, which is not the case for Mirage. In WVR, Mirage turns a bit better, but the Phantom is a powerful beast and I usually (if ever) fare better against the Mirage in the vertical when driving the Phantom. So, 99% for Mirage in BVR; 50/50 in WVR.  My 2c. 

Edited May 15 by primus_TR