Spirale Posted Monday at 07:06 PM Posted Monday at 07:06 PM (edited) Hi, I find the emmergencu jettison a bit tricky to be done. When you are into BVR and fast, it is impossible to Emergency Jett to escape a sudden threat, due to speed limit... I find it ricky to slow down to EJ, so i wonder how do pilot do this IRL? When you are burners On to gain altitude for ex, and then a threat pops in, you can not EJ so, for me, it is not an "emergency" jettison . Edited Monday at 07:09 PM by Spirale
Spirale Posted Tuesday at 02:13 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 02:13 AM 6 hours ago, Napillo said: Stop taking the big bags or go slower. It is not a viable solution for a jet like the JF17... Imagine a Sam13 pops in, you are flying very low and fast, you VID the missile smoke trails, you have to EJ to gain maneveurability and speed. In the JF17 you can not instantly drop your ordonnance cause you are fast: this is not a EJ for me if you can not do it. Perhaps there is a way to do EJ in any case, fast and during a combat, i wonder this...
Napillo Posted Tuesday at 06:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:00 PM (edited) Smaller fuel tanks have a higher jettison speed, so take less fuel, fly slower to conserve fuel and give yourself the option to EJ. If it is an SA-13, then your flying low will give your flares a better chance to work. Use the flares in that case. You can turn on auto flare/chaff if you aren't quick enough on the flares, or program in a continuous release program for EW when you're doing your low flyby. If you don't like those options, then don't fly those missions. However, this hypothetical situation is untenable - for one, flying near mach 1 at low altitudes can flame out your engine so you likely don't want to do that; any high g maneuvers would rip your tail off anyway, also you aren't going to outrun a missile, second - with fuel tanks you struggle to get near mach 1, especially at low altitudes. third, If you take the smaller fuel tanks, they'll jettison at 0.9 mach so it wouldn't be a problem given the second point. fourth, if you are taking those fuel tanks, chances are you aren't doing a lot of air to ground work, as you can't carry the big bombs, aside from one big on on the middle, in which case you couldn't guide it in, which, if you have to EJ, might as well not have even made the flight in the first place, given you are flying low and fast. If you are worried about an SA-13, then you'd want to fly high anyway, as above 20k ft they'll be a lot less of a threat. I'll quote hoggit here: Quote If you expect SA-13 presence and don't want to engage it you may overfly the area in a safe height of 12000 ft or simply avoid the area in a distance of 5 NM to the suspected site. Edited Tuesday at 06:33 PM by Napillo 1
Napillo Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM Also, if you need the extra G, then you can switch to AA mode instead of A/G its literally one switch, and it'll disable the G limiter, however your pylons will be damaged if you over-g them, which given the choice is between death or a damaged plane, seems like a reasonable compromise to make.
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