Steel Jaw Posted June 24 Posted June 24 Budget is a restraint... https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/30-45-gaming-monitors/259693/msi-mag-31-5-4k-va-curve-1500r-160hz-1ms-mprt-gaming-monitor-mag-321cup.html "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
LucShep Posted June 24 Posted June 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Steel Jaw said: Budget is a restraint... https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/30-45-gaming-monitors/259693/msi-mag-31-5-4k-va-curve-1500r-160hz-1ms-mprt-gaming-monitor-mag-321cup.html What monitor are you currently using? (size, resolution and refresh, panel type?) The 7800XT is certainly 4K gaming capable, but not really meant for it. While DCS at 4K on a 7800XT is doable, you'll be forced to cut down some settings. I'd also suspect that, for the heavier maps, to use FSR may become necessary in 4K resolution - and here is where things get less positive... The 7800XT uses FSR3 and, as you may know, the image is nowhere as good as Nvidia's equivalent DLSS (it gets a bit blurry and grainy, comparatively). I honestly think 4K makes more sense (to me anyway) in bigger panels, from 38'' and upwards in size, and where this sort of "sacrifice/compromise" would make more sense. Matter of personal opinion but, to me, I think you'd be better served with a good monitor that is 32'' 1440P VRR 144Hz+ with IPS panel. And there are some very good examples out there very reasonably priced now (I'll leave this for last). Reasons for me in this case are: The 1440P resolution still provides very good image at a 32 inches screen size, and will be much better handled there. This way, you could maintain the native resolution (2560x1440) with no upscaling, using TAA (maybe with some sharpening added) as the anti-aliasing method in the game options. Which results in both good image quality and performance, with your 7800XT. Regarding screen high refresh-rate, you'll notice 144Hz, 165Hz, 180Hz and 240Hz will be the most common these days for gaming monitors. Regardless, noone sees the benefits of maxxing such high refresh-rates with flight sims, as it's unnecessary for the genre of game and becomes increasingly harder to run. The point here -and in DCS for this matter- is that, if it's a high-refresh gaming monitor, it means it'll handle motion (i.e, movement) a lot better, regardless of frame-rate (so long as it's above 60FPS, that is), then resulting in a more "natural picture" when things are moving, with far less blur and ghosting, which is very appreciated. And here, and with any gaming monitor these days, what you should do is enable VRR (FreeSync in your case, with the 7800XT) and lock the max framerate in game to something like 120FPS (or 100FPS, or 90FPS, or 80FPS, etc, whatever your prefer), then let the monitor panel do the rest. The last thing is the panel type on a monitor. The different types are TN, VA, IPS and OLED (also subdivided into WOLED and QDOLED). TN is more focused on fast image on very high refresh panels, fast response times and motion handling, not so much image quality, so it's not a good choice for flight-sims. (not recommended) VA is more focused on high contrast and vibrant colors, but at cost of motion handling (blur, ghosting) and poor view angles, which you may notice and dislike with flight-sims. (not recommended) IPS is more focused on color accuracy, motion handling, response times and better view angles, at a cost of lower contrast, but generally a great choice for flight-sims. (recommended) OLED are the best for image quality (true blacks, no backlight bleeding, no glowing or blooming) and instantaneous response times, but very expensive and risk of burn-in. (recommended, with that caveat) You mention budget is a concern. There are plenty 32'' 1440P IPS gaming monitors that are very good and not too expensive (from $200 to $400 USD). There are so many monitors always coming out, at any time, that it's hard to trace what is best or not but, having tried these myself, I'd definitely recommend them: Asus TUF Gaming VG32AQL1A --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz / OC 170Hz - IPS https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg32aql1a/ Asus ROG Swift PG329Q --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz / OC 175Hz - IPS https://rog.asus.com/monitors/32-to-34-inches/rog-swift-pg329q-model/ LG 32GS75Q-B --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 180Hz - IPS https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gs75q-b-gaming-monitor LG 32GP850-B --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz / OC 180Hz - IPS https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gp850-b-gaming-monitor LG 32GP750-B --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz - IPS https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32gp750-b-gaming-monitor Gigabyte GS32Q --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz / OC 170Hz - IPS https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/GS32Q#kf Gigabyte M32Q --- 32'' 1440P (2560x1440) 165Hz / OC 170Hz - IPS https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M32Q#kf I'd say you can't really go wrong with any of these (all are good) and they're not too expensive. Edited June 24 by LucShep added links for the listed monitors CGTC - Caucasus retexture | A-10A cockpit retexture | Shadows Reduced Impact | DCS 2.5.6 - a lighter alternative Spoiler Win10 Pro x64 | Intel i7 12700K (OC@ 5.1/5.0p + 4.0e) | 64GB DDR4 (OC@ 3700 CL17 Crucial Ballistix) | RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra | 2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue) | Corsair RMX 850W | Asus Z690 TUF+ D4 | TR FN 240 | Fractal Meshify-C | UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE | 7x USB 3.0 Hub | 50'' 4K Philips PUS7608 UHD TV + Head Tracking | HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR) | TM Warthog + Logitech X56
Steel Jaw Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 Thanx, bro, good info provided...I am mainly looking at 4k for maybe MSFS2024, in DCS I mainly use VR. Current monitor in my specs. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
LucShep Posted June 24 Posted June 24 (edited) Oh sorry, didn't notice you already have a 32'' 1440P gaming monitor. Disregard my previous suggestions then. Personally, I don't think the MSI MAG 321CUP is worth the expense as an upgrade from yours (also for reasons previously stated), but you might find that different... Honestly, I'd only upgrade what you already have to a bigger monitor. Which then, yes, would have to be 4K. The problem there is budget..... the bigger good stuff is also much more expensive. If it's for desk use, one that imediately pops in my mind is the 38'' ASUS ROG Swift PG38UQ (38'' 4K 144Hz IPS): https://rog.asus.com/monitors/above-34-inches/rog-swift-pg38uq/ This is a different and interesting option that ASUS puts out, because it's a nice big monitor but not "too big" for desktop use, if that's the main use intention. And then there are the various 42'' OLED monitors in the market, including LG OLED TVs (also work great as monitors). Probably will feel a bit too big on a desk (if coming from smaller monitors) but are perfectly suitable for that role. ASUS PG42UQ - review: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-oled-pg42uq Philips 42M2N8900 - review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/philips-evnia-42m2n89-review KTC G42P5 - review: https://www.guru3d.com/review/ktc-g42p5-oled-monitor-review/ LG OLED Flex LX3 (TV, HDMI 2.1 only, no DisplayPort; screen is bendable - flat to 900R curve) - review: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/oled-flex LG OLED42C3 (TV, HDMI 2.1 only, no DisplayPort) - review: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c3-oled LG OLED42C4 (TV, HDMI 2.1 only, no DisplayPort) - review: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/42-c4-oled LG OLED42C5 (TV, HDMI 2.1 only, no DisplayPort) - review: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c5-oled Edited June 24 by LucShep 1 CGTC - Caucasus retexture | A-10A cockpit retexture | Shadows Reduced Impact | DCS 2.5.6 - a lighter alternative Spoiler Win10 Pro x64 | Intel i7 12700K (OC@ 5.1/5.0p + 4.0e) | 64GB DDR4 (OC@ 3700 CL17 Crucial Ballistix) | RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra | 2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue) | Corsair RMX 850W | Asus Z690 TUF+ D4 | TR FN 240 | Fractal Meshify-C | UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE | 7x USB 3.0 Hub | 50'' 4K Philips PUS7608 UHD TV + Head Tracking | HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR) | TM Warthog + Logitech X56
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